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2nd run of camera switch that show a front image on the touch screen

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Wow, what great, simple idea! That would totally work. I could see a small "push-on/push-off" button installed somewhere near the driver (even hidden) to toggle the front camera on only when parking.

My Escort radar detector has the small remote mounted up under the cubby shelf out of sight. I just reach under to hit the buttons -- nobody even knows it's there.

Steve's solution is very clever.

I almost always have the rear camera on when I drive. For me it's an extra safety measure. My solution is to use Homelink to toggle on the front camera whenever I park head in and I'm concerned about curbs and other obstructions. Also, as it's linked to GPS, Homelink always switches on the front camera when I'm about 10 yards from my home parking space. If I park head-in I have a view of the curb. If I back in the switch automatically shows the rear view.

And BTW -- since TMC has made possible all of this discussion regarding the switch and the development of the switch idea in the first place (interaction among members is what makes all of this possible), when we start taking orders for V2 of the switch TMC will be provided a 5% benefit for each sale.
 
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Wow - artsci, I had forgotten about how Homelink would trigger the camera via GPS. That's an added bonus to all this.

And very generous and quite worthwhile to donate a portion to TMC. We all benefit from TMC every time we visit here.

fyi, I am just an advocate for this front camera kit/solution. I've done nothing in the development or production of the first or this run of switches. I am lucky to have paid attention and joined the first batch of owners to get one. There's at least four or five people that we owe this effort to and the leader is artsci. I believe if his S had come with parking sensors, we would not be where we are. He started this and later added parking sensors to his car. This is definitely still the best mod that I have done to my last two Model S's.
 
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Awesome. Couple of questions (sorry if they’ve been answered earlier):
1) Does it make sense / is it much harder to install on AP1 vehicles with the exposed radar sensor?

I've installed it on my P85D and there's no interference with the front radar at all. The camera sits on the little "shelf" directly above the radar:

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appleguru, didn't you mention in a previous post that you had a working knowledge of the CAN bus technology? Maybe you can mention or volunteer to help Artsci with that feature on this switch? Not trying to put you on the spot, but this is a community effort. No one is making big bucks on this project. We've sort of begged and pleaded with Artsci to do this second run of the switch for those that missed it the first time.

Anything to do with the CAN bus is over my head. I will leave that for someone else to comment about.
But there might be a way, but probably not going to like it.
You saw the part where it was discussed that there is three ways to activate the screen swap?
1) using a connection from the harness ('12'-'14/'15) reverse light wire ('16-'17)
2) using the remote control (button D) that come with the manufactured switch
3) after programming the remote, you can setup a choice on your touchscreen Homelink settings like you will see in the picture I show in post #199 of this thread).
4) (one more idea) you could select a 12v source and put a simple on/off switch on the reverse lead (think of the big-old-buttons that used to be mounted on the steering column on Henry Ford's first Model A). We know the reverse backup light lead is simply sending/flashing a 12v signal to the reverse input contact on the switch at the same time its turning on the backup lights. And when the 12v signal is removed, it reverts back to the default view. (Disclaimer: I've not personally tried using just a simple button switch, but it should work, because that's how I discovered the lead from the reverse backup light triggered the view swap).

If swapping screen from default/front to rear, when needing rear view is a burden, I think you can ignore the labels on the switch where you plug the cables in to the switch and plug front into rear and rear into front and make the switch's default rear. Then when you want the front view when pulling into towards the parking space.

Fortunately, the camera, cables and switch and programming the remotes can be accomplished independent of connecting the reverse wire/lead regardless of the source. So if you decide later that you don't like #2, #3, or especially #4, you can go back and add the #1.

Yeah, I’ve got a pretty good handle on CAN for this car, and have isolated a few signals we could use for backup state.

With the current design it seems we would need a small 12V relay (maybe just a transistor? I can’t imagine we need much/any current to signal the current switch).

I’ve got a panda hooked up to my car now; it is a very inexpensive/high quality CAN interface with open source firmware: commaai/panda

With a bit of tweaking we can probably use a modified firmware build to monitor for the backup signal and repurpose one of the board’s GPIO pins that we don’t otherwise need for “backup”. I won’t have time to dive into this for a few weeks, but I’ll definitely take a look at what is possible...
 
Yeah, I’ve got a pretty good handle on CAN for this car, and have isolated a few signals we could use for backup state.

[...] I won’t have time to dive into this for a few weeks, but I’ll definitely take a look at what is possible...

Bravo, appleguru! I wish you the best of luck finding time to come up with a clean solution. I'm eager to get the camera switch, but not at all eager to have to run another wire to the rear of the vehicle to get the reverse camera signal. Fingers crossed, and thanks in advance for sharing your efforts with the TMC community.
 
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One thing I'd like to ask is what's Tesla's stand on mods like this? What do people do when they take a car in for service? I like to remove as much 'stuff' from the car as possible so it doesn't get in their way (caddy drawer, empty the frunk and back storage in my X, etc.) or cause a problem to the techs. I'd unplug a dashcam if I had one so they wouldn't perhaps damage anything doing so...

Obviously something like this cabled up would be impossible to remove or even disconnect. What's their response?
 
One thing I'd like to ask is what's Tesla's stand on mods like this? What do people do when they take a car in for service? I like to remove as much 'stuff' from the car as possible so it doesn't get in their way (caddy drawer, empty the frunk and back storage in my X, etc.) or cause a problem to the techs. I'd unplug a dashcam if I had one so they wouldn't perhaps damage anything doing so...

Obviously something like this cabled up would be impossible to remove or even disconnect. What's their response?

They've never said anything to me about it. I also have the lighted rear applique which is pretty cool, and they comment on that... just being cool. I also have a hard-wired stealth radar detector and they've never commented on that (although I do power it down before going in).

That said, if I were taking my car in for service for something related to the dash internals where the switch and wiring reside, or for anything touchscreen related, I'd pull it out so there's no question if my after market mods caused the problem and they could deny warranty service. The way I have it wired up with the OBDII port for power, it would probably take me 15 minutes to pull it out and another 15 to put it back.

But for dashcams I would remove them before service since policy is for the service tech to pull ALL wires from ALL dashcams before service. This includes power, GPS, rear/side camera feeds, etc. The first time I took my car in this happened, when in reality all they had to do was pull the power plug from the front cam which would have turned off the entire system. But in order to prevent damage to the wires or the cameras, I remove them (I leave the wires). I know some Blackview cables were very delicate and would break.
 
One thing I'd like to ask is what's Tesla's stand on mods like this? What do people do when they take a car in for service? I like to remove as much 'stuff' from the car as possible so it doesn't get in their way (caddy drawer, empty the frunk and back storage in my X, etc.) or cause a problem to the techs. I'd unplug a dashcam if I had one so they wouldn't perhaps damage anything doing so...

Obviously something like this cabled up would be impossible to remove or even disconnect. What's their response?

I don’t disconnect anything when I go in for service and my car is extensively modified (but everything electronic, including the camera switch works off the 12V system). I’ve had the camera switch on my car for about 3 plus years (since even the first beta tests) and my SC had not said a word about it.
 
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Ok, folks, now that I've been running the V2 version of the switch for a few days, I have my V1 switch un-installed and sitting on my bench.

If one person/volunteer who hasn't yet installed the switch is ready to try, I'll send you my V1 switch "on loan" until the V2 switches are ready, then you can swap out the two and send it back to me. I even have a spare front camera I can include if you don't have one yet. You'll need all the other parts and cables from Tesla.

The V1 switch is without a case, so you'd need to improvise something to protect it while waiting for V2, as I do want the switch back as a backup or if I need it for another car (hmmmm Model 3???).

I'd optimally like to find someone who has a Model S facelift or AP2 car, and could help document the install differences for the community.

I'm not sure if this has been installed on a Model X yet either, that might be a good addition to the install directions.

This is a community effort. Serious inquiries only.
 
Ok, folks, now that I've been running the V2 version of the switch for a few days, I have my V1 switch un-installed and sitting on my bench.

If one person/volunteer who hasn't yet installed the switch is ready to try, I'll send you my V1 switch "on loan" until the V2 switches are ready, then you can swap out the two and send it back to me. I even have a spare front camera I can include if you don't have one yet. You'll need all the other parts and cables from Tesla.

The V1 switch is without a case, so you'd need to improvise something to protect it while waiting for V2, as I do want the switch back as a backup or if I need it for another car (hmmmm Model 3???).

I'd optimally like to find someone who has a Model S facelift or AP2 car, and could help document the install differences for the community.

I'm not sure if this has been installed on a Model X yet either, that might be a good addition to the install directions.

This is a community effort. Serious inquiries only.

I am interested (and would use this to help with dev of a CAN solution for backup). I have an AP2 MS.
 
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