I own a 30A 1772 from my Nissan Leaf. I plan to use this as my home charger. Is anyone else doing this? What do you think?
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Nice!I did exactly the same. Just get an extra j1772 adapter for home.
If the cable doesn't reach, get a J1772 extension cord called the jlong.
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I would assume that the charging speed is just fine. Right?
I own a 30A 1772 from my Nissan Leaf. I plan to use this as my home charger. Is anyone else doing this? What do you think?
Won't the newer cars also open the charge port door if you touch it?Tesla's UMC or HPWC are a little more convenient with the button to open the charge port door.
GSP
Won't the newer cars also open the charge port door if you touch it?
I don't think so, but you can hold the rear button on the remote for 2 seconds to open the charge port. You can also open it from the touchscreen before you exit the car. It is plenty convenient enough, but having a button on the UMC or HPWC plug is just a little bit nicer.
GSP
Yes... I have a Chargepoint CT-500 that I use at 30A, 240V... So, getting 7.2kW off it. It gets the job done.
I have never needed to charge faster than my j1772 rate at 30A 240V. If I ever needed faster charge rate in a pinch I just head to my local supercharging station.Has this charging speed ever been too slow for you, or has it worked out for most situations? I am debating between a Chargepoint adapter and the Tesla one.
I have never needed to charge faster than my j1772 rate at 30A 240V. If I ever needed faster charge rate in a pinch I just head to my local supercharging station.
I own a 30A 1772 from my Nissan Leaf. I plan to use this as my home charger. Is anyone else doing this? What do you think?
Has this charging speed ever been too slow for you, or has it worked out for most situations? I am debating between a Chargepoint adapter and the Tesla one.
I don't want to just leave this bit of misinformation hanging around here unanswered.I am using a 30A leaf charger and it works just fine.... It you place it on a 30A dryer circuit don't forget to dial back the charge rate to 24A....
Nothing wrong with the J1772, but no advantage to using it either other than you don't have to put in even the small investment to install a NEMA 14-50.
On the old cars that mattered a lot more, where you had to either remember to use the touch screen before getting out, or had to get the fob out of your pocket and hold it for a few seconds. But now that you can just touch the charge port door to open it, it's hardly any effort since you're standing right there.- Button on UMC handle is slightly more convenient and undeniably slicker than tapping the charge port to open it.
A spare J1772 is about $95 I think. You suggest that it would be a significant cost versus the cost of wiring and installing a larger circuit, which you describe as "probably small". I guarantee you it's ALWAYS going to be more than $95 to change out the breaker, wiring, and outlet, and usually a few multiples of that $95 amount, so it's not "probably small" for most people. Keeping the J1772 station that is already installed is definitely going to be much cheaper.- If you like to have your J1772 adapter with you in the car (and who doesn't?) then you have to move it back and forth, or buy a spare. If you buy a spare, you should factor that cost against the (probably small) cost to install a NEMA 14-50.
It's a 30A charging station, so that would be a pretty bad assumption that it's a 50A circuit. Most of those J1772 stations like that are made to be hardwired on a 40A circuit and provide 30A continuous to the car. And since there isn't a 40A outlet type, there's no way to use that circuit with the UMC unless you pay to do electrical work. But that's a self-fulfilling proposal, then. If you pay for an electrical upgrade, of course you can get the capability for faster charging in some way.- The UMC charges a bit faster (assuming the circuit is rated for 50A). Mostly not going to matter on an overnight charge, but sometimes maybe?
Sure. YMMV depending on what your wiring looks like. I accept that my guess might be completely wrong for "most people" and even if it's not, it might still be wrong for the original poster. That said...I don’t see the advantages in your comments. All of your suggestions seem to assume the cost to install a bigger circuit is just pocket change, which isn’t the case for most people’s situations.
De gustibus. I have a newer car that works as you describe, the button on the handle is still better IMO. Not "get this at any price" better but it does have a certain pleasing elegance. I think it justifies "slightly more convenient". Also, you forgot about the slight inconvenience of removing the J1772 adapter from the car, which does, in my experience, often requiring dinking with the fob.On the old cars that mattered a lot more, where you had to either remember to use the touch screen before getting out, or had to get the fob out of your pocket and hold it for a few seconds. But now that you can just touch the charge port door to open it, it's hardly any effort since you're standing right there.
Depends on how long a run the wiring has to go -- if you have the good fortune to have the panel conveniently situated, I wouldn't expect it to be a deal-breaker. I suppose it also depends on how long you're expecting to amortize the cost over. If you expect to use it for the next ten years, the (say) $200 you seem to be suggesting as a delta works out to something like a nickel a day.A spare J1772 is about $95 I think. You suggest that it would be a significant cost versus the cost of wiring and installing a larger circuit, which you describe as "probably small". I guarantee you it's ALWAYS going to be more than $95 to change out the breaker, wiring, and outlet, and usually a few multiples of that $95 amount, so it's not "probably small" for most people. Keeping the J1772 station that is already installed is definitely going to be much cheaper.
Quite likely I'm an outlier but I have a J1772 station hung off a circuit sized for 50A (though breakered for 40A). See also above.It's a 30A charging station, so that would be a pretty bad assumption that it's a 50A circuit.
Trivia: my EVSE (for boring historical reasons) is a Bosch Power Xpress that plugs into a NEMA 6-50.Most of those J1772 stations like that are made to be hardwired on a 40A circuit and provide 30A continuous to the car. And since there isn't a 40A outlet type, there's no way to use that circuit with the UMC unless you pay to do electrical work. But that's a self-fulfilling proposal, then. If you pay for an electrical upgrade, of course you can get the capability for faster charging in some way.