Supercharger - Aventura, FL

[Chuq]

1. Should the white boxes be the charging stations then I have good news. The reported 8 is wrong, I counted 20. I am a new owner so excuse me if I am wrong about the white boxes.

Well you are kind of wrong, but in a very good way

Each of those boxes is a supercharger unit, but each one supports *two* supercharger stalls. That would make this a 40 stall supercharger location!

(P.S. Yes, the 8 on sc.info is just a default minimum which often means "we don't know how many" when in the early stages.)

 

[Larry Chanin]

Still looks far from finished today. some things of note.

1. Should the white boxes be the charging stations then I have good news. The reported 8 is wrong, I counted 20. I am a new owner so excuse me if I am wrong about the white boxes.
2. Location. Not a fan of the brand new parking garage where the stations are most likely being installed n the bottom floor having a sign warning about flooding during heavy rainstorms.

Thanks for the information.

Those white cabinets are definitely Supercharger Cabinets.

For the original type of Supercharger with a capacity of 120 kW, 20 Supercharger Cabinets would mean that they are installing 40 charging stalls!!

For this type of installation, using Brickell as an example, it is likely that they would be installing Urban type Superchargers.

If they are installing the Urban type of Supercharger, I do not know with certainty whether they have one or two charging stalls per Supercharger Cabinet.

However, independently we have received very credible information that Tesla plans to install 40 charging stations. We held off sharing the information until we had some sort of additional independent supporting information. So while it is not yet 100% certain, it is nevertheless likely that even Urban type Superchargers share two charging stalls per Supercharger Cabinet even if each stall gets the full 72 kW capacity.

So in summary, it is likely that this is a 40 stall Supercharging Station. In the worst case it is a 20 stall Supercharging Station.

Larry

 

[Larry Chanin]

In studying other Urban Supercharger installations, it appears that even Urban Superchargers share two charging stalls per Supercharger Cabinet.
Therefore, this further supports the likelihood that we are dealing with 40 charging stalls even if they are Urban type Superchargers.

Larry

 

[Depeche Mode]

Still looks far from finished today. some things of note.

1. Should the white boxes be the charging stations then I have good news. The reported 8 is wrong, I counted 20. I am a new owner so excuse me if I am wrong about the white boxes.
2. Location. Not a fan of the brand new parking garage where the stations are most likely being installed n the bottom floor having a sign warning about flooding during heavy rainstorms.

Counted 20 also... took picture of it yesterday...

 

[vadimzven]

Agreed about 40 charging stalls, but they are already connected, it's impossible to park 40 cars. The distance between each 2 stalls should be more.

 

[Larry Chanin]

Agreed about 40 charging stalls, but they are already connected, it's impossible to park 40 cars. The distance between each 2 stalls should be more.

Hi,

Welcome to the forums.

I don't follow your comment. Can you please elaborate?

The white boxes are the Supercharger Cabinets, not the Supercharger Charging Terminals (stalls). The Cabinets are located away from the Terminals with two Terminals connected to each Cabinet. The Terminals are positioned adjacent to parking spots. There shouldn't be any difficulty parking the cars.

Larry

 

[MiamiEV]

Looks like the installation in Aventura is coming along nicely. Looks like the system is being mounted away from the charging station. Then they are installing a large conduit to run all the lines. Simple posts with the super chargers by each spot. Can’t wait.

 

[GoCanes]

Looks like the installation in Aventura is coming along nicely. Looks like the system is being mounted away from the charging station. Then they are installing a large conduit to run all the lines. Simple posts with the super chargers by each spot. Can’t wait.

By my count this morning, it looks like they are installing 20 chargers. But there may be room for others on the other side of the garage ramp.

 

[jbcarioca]

The three urban supercharger stations I have seen myself have all had greater dispersion of individual terminals (stalls) than has been teh case for traditional Superchargers. It looks form the photos so nicely supplied by @GoCanes that this is the case for Aventura also. So far, BTW, Urban Supercharger installations seem normally to have many more stalls than is customary for conventional Superchargers. That makes sense too, because most Urban Superchargers seem to be loaded around multi-Unit Dwellings which might not have accessible home charging options. This is really quite exciting!

 

[Larry Chanin]

By my count this morning, it looks like they are installing 20 chargers. But there may be room for others on the other side of the garage ramp.

Hi Ed,

Thanks for the information.

Urban Superchargers, like the original Superchargers, have two terminals connected to each Supercharger cabinet. That means that this installations should ultimately accommodate 40 terminals because we have counted 20 Supercharger Cabinets. In addition, we have received independent information from a credible source that there will be 40 charging stalls.

Larry

 

[GoCanes]

Hi Ed,

Thanks for the information.

Urban Superchargers, like the original Superchargers, have two terminals connected to each Supercharger cabinet. That means that this installations should ultimately accommodate 40 terminals because we have counted 20 Supercharger Cabinets. In addition, we have received independent information from a credible source that there will be 40 charging stalls.

Larry

So there are also about ten HPWC in the same garage that are used exclusively by the relocated Tesla store for test drive vehicles. They’ve been in place since January when the store moved to the new location. Could it be that some of those cabinets were installed back then to power those chargers?

 

[Larry Chanin]

So there are also about ten HPWC in the same garage that are used exclusively by the relocated Tesla store for test drive vehicles. They’ve been in place since January when the store moved to the new location. Could it be that some of those cabinets were installed back then to power those chargers?

The Supercharger Cabinets are providing Level 3 Direct Current at almost 400 volts. The Tesla Wall Connectors are Level 2 Alternating Current devices operating at a nominal voltage of 208 volts. So the Supercharger Cabinets can not power those Wall Connectors.

Larry

 

[patekfan]

This is as of Saturday, April 21st at Aventura Mall. The other side of the garage is also filled with chargers but I only got one picture. The chargers appear to be finished but I can’t comments on status of the ancillary work.

 

[Larry Chanin]

This is as of Saturday, April 21st at Aventura Mall. The other side of the garage is also filled with chargers but I only got one picture. The chargers appear to be finished but I can’t comments on status of the ancillary work.

Thanks.

The photo looks like there are at least an additional 18 charging terminals. Did you happen to count them? Are there an additional 20 terminals?

Larry

 

[alseTrick]

Same price to charge from an urban charger as it is from a super charger?

 

[Big Earl]

Same price to charge from an urban charger as it is from a super charger?

Yes - same price.

Supercharging

 

[GoCanes]

This is as of Saturday, April 21st at Aventura Mall. The other side of the garage is also filled with chargers but I only got one picture. The chargers appear to be finished but I can’t comments on status of the ancillary work.

No change as of May 1 - all the chargers are installed, but access to that level of the garage is blocked.

 

[MiamiEV]

I stopped in the Tesla store this afternoon, 5/12 and asked when it will be open. They said they do not have an exact date but expect it to open by the end of the month. So should be open within 2 weeks.

 

[Chuq]

Looks like Aventura is open - only 35 stalls at the moment (maybe more later?)

 

[Larry Chanin]

Supercharger.info is a great website, but we still need a photo of someone charging before we can confirm that this Supercharger Station is operational.

Larry