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I have the new (non-100 kWh sticker) and I did NOT get the wireless charger. Production 12/19, 2020 model year.
i believe only model x is really made in 2020. the manufacture label said 2020 then you will get wireless charger.
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I have the new (non-100 kWh sticker) and I did NOT get the wireless charger. Production 12/19, 2020 model year.
For me, It SEEMS LIKE there’s something different than just software between a 2020 Long Range and new Long Range Plus.
Not sure if anyone else saw that after the Plus announcement, the X inventory cars changes to Plus in description, then were changed back to just Long Range a few days later. Wish there was a little more transparency on the differences to better make a decision on passing up an available custom order 2/3/20 long range x order for a post 2/14/20 long range plus car and waiting another month...the possibility of a 110 sized battery sounding more convincing.
i believe only model x is really made in 2020. the manufacture label said 2020 then you will get wireless charger.
It seems from my sleuthing and the pictures in this thread they changed the label on the pack by removing the 100kwh and added the GB/T bar code for recycling compliance around Dec 1. Part number remains the same with revision F. Based on the pack serial number, my pack was built in November (older label) and the serial number on the newer pack indicates it was built in December.
Useless information I’m sure, I was bored
2019 shows 351 miles of rangeView attachment 513439
For me, It SEEMS LIKE there’s something different than just software between a 2020 Long Range and new Long Range Plus.
Not sure if anyone else saw that after the Plus announcement, the X inventory cars changes to Plus in description, then were changed back to just Long Range a few days later. Wish there was a little more transparency on the differences to better make a decision on passing up an available custom order 2/3/20 long range x order for a post 2/14/20 long range plus car and waiting another month...the possibility of a 110 sized battery sounding more convincing.
No its all efficiency gains thru software tweaks and how they calculate EPA range. Elon has already said that the most recent raven models are all capable of this range and currently have understated range. an OTA update should bring it on par with the new "plus" range. Plus was only added for regulatory purposes, its still the same car you would've ordered 2 weeks ago vs now.
No its all efficiency gains thru software tweaks and how they calculate EPA range. Elon has already said that the most recent raven models are all capable of this range and currently have understated range. an OTA update should bring it on par with the new "plus" range. Plus was only added for regulatory purposes, its still the same car you would've ordered 2 weeks ago vs now.
Actual he said it was from many small hardware changes put into production over time. And that recent cars would get some of the additional range.
I can't see how that's the case, and I interpreted his comments differently. He said they have made small hardware updates over time, and that cars built in the last few months are capable of the newly certified range.
They can't have cars with multiple ranges without doing this whole process of changing the name and re-certifying. So nobody will get (officially) a partial range extension. It's plausible that some are seeing a minor efficiency gain that they are unaware of but it won't be official.
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Depends on when car was built, as there are many small hardware improvements, so most will be somewhere in between 373 & 390
btw another interesting thing nobody is payign attention to is he's exclusively talking about S that got smaller range bump.Nope, not what he said.
Nobody is going to get an official range extension. Your official number is what came on the Monroney sticker when you bought the car. But people will get a update to the estimated range in the car which will between their original and the new 2020 LR+ range depending on what hardware your car has.
But hey, why believe me, just read what Elon wrote:
No its all efficiency gains thru software tweaks and how they calculate EPA range. Elon has already said that the most recent raven models are all capable of this range and currently have understated range. an OTA update should bring it on par with the new "plus" range. Plus was only added for regulatory purposes, its still the same car you would've ordered 2 weeks ago vs now.
Yeah, it's hard to know if further hardware tweaks were made. He said in the last few months. But Raven have been out like 9 months or more. It could be all Raven's get it. They never did "Label the Raven". Plus might mean Raven.
If that was the case they wouldn't have need to add the +. All 2020 LR models are Ravens, they could have just corrected the EPA rating. So the fact that they have to distinguish between the 2020 LR Raven and the 2020 LR+ Raven sure makes it seem like the last few months starts sometime after October which is when the 2020's started.
it's not like the real world range and EPA testing are totally unrelated. So improving one improves the other too I suspect.does it manipulate characteristics so that it does better in the EPA testing?