36.X and Steering Wheel Weight?

[coco135]

I just got 2022.44.25.5 yesterday (first time for cabin cam for me). The cabin camera now provides a clear view of the steering yoke.

Yes.
I think someone posted a picture where it didn’t but that was on model 3 only

 

[Supcom]

Yes.
I think someone posted a picture where it didn’t but that was on model 3 only
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Model 3 definitely does not show the steering wheel. It doesn't show anything at all at night unless you turn on dog mode so the display lights up!

 

[coco135]

Model 3 definitely does not show the steering wheel. It doesn't show anything at all at night unless you turn on dog mode so the display lights up!

that's kinda what i said.
Also, on newer models camera can see at night since there are IR lights under the lense

 

[BogeyGofler22]

the camera does not see the steering wheel and probably cant tell if your hands are on your lap or the wheel.

see what it sees for yourself in latest update that lets you view the cabin while in sentry mode on the app.

For refresh X, the camera sees the yoke

 

[hybridbear]

Any update on # of minutes on 2022.44.25 before getting the strikeout?

 

[parrainx]

Any update on # of minutes on 2022.44.25 before getting the strikeout?

I think it depends more on straightness of the road. I got kicked off at random times. Even during the drive when I would randomly touch the wheel 2-3 min apart. Still got kicked off for rest of drive even though I touched the wheel 30sec prior.

Weight on left didn’t make a difference.

So I’m back to resting my left arm at 9 o’clock, no weight, no kick offs. Seems like it doesn’t require as much force as back in May. So there’s some improvements for those that don’t use “defeat device”.

 

[D.E.]

Anyone tried a weight with a ‘dangly’ component on it, a heavy nut on a springy wire such as a coat hanger wire sticking out at a 90 degree angle? Then with every bump or change in roadway height the nut on a wire would sag or bounce upward and alter the torque. There’d almost never be a constant torque.

 

[hybridbear]

Anyone tried a weight with a ‘dangly’ component on it, a heavy nut on a springy wire such as a coat hanger wire sticking out at a 90 degree angle? Then with every bump or change in roadway height the nut on a wire would sag or bounce upward and alter the torque. There’d almost never be a constant torque.

Not sure about that specific design, but even non-fixed (dangly) weights seem to lead to forced disengagements & FSD Beta strikes now.

 

[60rockstar]

I had a FSD disconnect yesterday. Been using a weight for 6 months now and no problem. Yesterday I got the "steering wheel defeat device detected" and my drive ended. I watch the road, and am ready to take over anytime. I think these safety features are for idiots who want to sleep or read the paper. I've flown autopilots for years and don't have to hold the yoke, but am ready to take over. I find it frustrating.

 

[Yelobird]

I had a FSD disconnect yesterday. Been using a weight for 6 months now and no problem. Yesterday I got the "steering wheel defeat device detected" and my drive ended. I watch the road, and am ready to take over anytime. I think these safety features are for idiots who want to sleep or read the paper. I've flown autopilots for years and don't have to hold the yoke, but am ready to take over. I find it frustrating.

Luckily there aren’t pedestrians jumping in front of airplanes or cloud construction.