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3rd Party interface for MCU2 to Analogue AM/FM/XM Radio

Do you want Tesla to restore radio functionality for MCU 2 Upgrades


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Cowbell

Member
Sep 1, 2017
68
48
Atlanta
I’ve been watching and waiting for a solution to the deprecation of AM/FM/XM radio that results when upgrading MCU1 to MCU2. So far, I’ve been disappointed that Tesla has not provided a migration solution. Further, I have seen several threads where individuals have developed and installed MCU2 adapter cables for a few self-help pioneers who have also secured and replaced the legacy analog radio with the Tesla digital radio that IS compatible with MCU2. But apparently, even with this, Tesla will not enable the software to use the radio. This is very unfortunate.

Automotive radio is important not only for entertainment, but also for critical public safety communications. In particular, the dissemination of local, regional and national emergency and related weather information cannot be reliably achieved during hurricanes and other disasters. Usually, there’s no internet and very sketchy (if any) wireless tower coverage in these cases. The use case for XM satellite radio is particularly important when local stations have been destroyed through natural disasters such as occurs in hurricanes and floods.

if Tesla is not going to address this, and if the FCC and other regulatory bodies don’t care, then we should find a solution for the Tesla community that doesn’t require hauling around a portable external radio set or external radio “adaptor kludge.” In the least, Tesla should support us with technical information in this endeavor because of these public safety concerns affecting their customers.

Is there not a way that a cost effective active electronic “translator box” could be developed by a third party that would allow the MCU2 to control the legacy analog radio ? If this could be done, then perhaps it wouldn’t require Tesla to enable a software configuration ? Maybe there would even be a way to continue to support the AM radio as ‘extended FM’ channels ? We have some very bright and capable engineers in this community. What do you say ?

I’m sorry Tesla fans, but in my opinion, this whole radio disablement issue needs to be addressed one way or another. It will most assuredly weigh in my future EV product decisions.
 

Kush Plank

Member
Mar 26, 2019
41
19
United States
honeslty most millenials use 3rd party music sources such as spotify / apple music which can be used via bluetooth, me personally dont mind am / fm being gone as i dont know many people who listen to the radio anyways
 

boaterva

Supporting Member
Apr 2, 2016
7,562
3,736
Northern Virginia, USA
The monster thread on the upgrade has details that the gateway configuration (I believe) needs to be updated to use the digital tuner (even if installed) and toolkit (or root) access is needed for that. Not sure what anyone outside Tesla can do, if my recall is correct. I’d refer to that thread. I’ll see if I can add a link below.

Tesla confirms infotainment system upgradeability from MCU1 to MCU2 for $2500
 
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Cowbell

Member
Sep 1, 2017
68
48
Atlanta
honeslty most millenials use 3rd party music sources such as spotify / apple music which can be used via bluetooth, me personally dont mind am / fm being gone as i dont know many people who listen to the radio anyways

I haven’t seen any data on owners of Tesla Model S and X vehicles to know with certainty:

1) The generational distribution of owners
2) The preference and usage of radio vs streaming services of millennials, or other generations for that matter.

You are certainly entitled to your preference and based on that I understand why this issue does not matter to you.

I have a theory that it’s not just millennials that own Tesla’s and I think that having a radio matters a whole lot more than you may think, particularly in situations when and where streaming services are not available or working.
 
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Cowbell

Member
Sep 1, 2017
68
48
Atlanta
I would NEVER buy a car that couldn't get Am and FM. Local news, weather, sports, etc. Also support local advertisers. I mostly listen to and support local NPR. IMHO, stupid decision to delete.
The monster thread on the upgrade has details that the gateway configuration (I believe) needs to be updated to use the digital tuner (even if installed) and toolkit (or root) access is needed for that. Not sure what anyone outside Tesla can do, if my recall is correct. I’d refer to that thread. I’ll see if I can add a link below.

Tesla confirms infotainment system upgradeability from MCU1 to MCU2 for $2500

I have read through this thread, but I don’t recall seeing that anyone successfully activated the replacement digital radio with the new MCU2 retrofit.
 

Tesomega

Member
Sep 28, 2017
277
186
Pittsburg, CA
honeslty most millenials use 3rd party music sources such as spotify / apple music which can be used via bluetooth, me personally dont mind am / fm being gone as i dont know many people who listen to the radio anyways
And Most probably never ventured outside their city lives where data streaming don't exist. I have been in many such places visiting national parks, its not fun.
 
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Njmoser

New Member
Aug 15, 2020
1
0
Cincinnati
Does the forthcoming lucid ev offer full service radio receivers.. I have delayed purchasing an x for my wife until am fm Xm radios are restored. Customer experience is important. Service and unfulfilled promises are weighing heavy. (Still waiting 3 years for FSU on my p100d).
 

Krash

Data Technician
Apr 18, 2017
1,833
2,015
Intermountain US
Yes, cars that came with MCU2 have radio runers, including optional XM on the S/X.

Be prepared to wait a long time for the "Full" in full self driving. It is not going to suddenly appear. If you haven't liked Tesla's pace so far you will probably always be disappointed.
 
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Cowbell

Member
Sep 1, 2017
68
48
Atlanta
I’ve been watching and waiting for a solution to the deprecation of AM/FM/XM radio that results when upgrading MCU1 to MCU2. So far, I’ve been disappointed that Tesla has not provided a migration solution. Further, I have seen several threads where individuals have developed and installed MCU2 adapter cables for a few self-help pioneers who have also secured and replaced the legacy analog radio with the Tesla digital radio that IS compatible with MCU2. But apparently, even with this, Tesla will not enable the software to use the radio. This is very unfortunate.

Automotive radio is important not only for entertainment, but also for critical public safety communications. In particular, the dissemination of local, regional and national emergency and related weather information cannot be reliably achieved during hurricanes and other disasters. Usually, there’s no internet and very sketchy (if any) wireless tower coverage in these cases. The use case for XM satellite radio is particularly important when local stations have been destroyed through natural disasters such as occurs in hurricanes and floods.

if Tesla is not going to address this, and if the FCC and other regulatory bodies don’t care, then we should find a solution for the Tesla community that doesn’t require hauling around a portable external radio set or external radio “adaptor kludge.” In the least, Tesla should support us with technical information in this endeavor because of these public safety concerns affecting their customers.

Is there not a way that a cost effective active electronic “translator box” could be developed by a third party that would allow the MCU2 to control the legacy analog radio ? If this could be done, then perhaps it wouldn’t require Tesla to enable a software configuration ? Maybe there would even be a way to continue to support the AM radio as ‘extended FM’ channels ? We have some very bright and capable engineers in this community. What do you say ?

I’m sorry Tesla fans, but in my opinion, this whole radio disablement issue needs to be addressed one way or another. It will most assuredly weigh in my future EV product decisions.

Here’s why streaming is not a complete solution to loss of AM/FM/XM radio:

Cell Site Outages Abound in Gulf as Laura Wreaks Havoc | Inside Towers
 
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TommyElectron

Member
May 5, 2017
25
12
Los Angeles
Not to mention churches and many other events/venues are switching to drive/park in service and broadcast their audio through FM transmitter now. No streaming solution is going to work with this. No reason to upgrade to MCU2 at this time for me.
 

hulk2k17

Member
Jul 18, 2017
403
171
DFW Area
Tunein has a quite a few local radio stations, so it’s worth looking there first before writing off the MCU upgrade. Also, why not stream iheartradio from your phone?
 

brkaus

Well-Known Member
Jul 8, 2014
7,637
6,172
Austin, TX
Tunein has a quite a few local radio stations, so it’s worth looking there first before writing off the MCU upgrade. Also, why not stream iheartradio from your phone?
Several of my local stations are not available on tunin. Streaming from a phone is clumsy. Extra device to hold (so illegal for under 18 in Texas) and cannot change stations from the steering wheel.

why could Tesla not simply make the tuner available?
 

markn455

Member
Apr 8, 2016
370
142
Ball Ground, GA
I would NEVER buy a car that couldn't get Am and FM. Local news, weather, sports, etc. Also support local advertisers. I mostly listen to and support local NPR. IMHO, stupid decision to delete.

I agree with you completely. I found that many AM and FM stations are available on TuneIn. None of the iHeart stations are there but most of the other metro area stations seem to be there. The audio quality is not great. This is not an acceptable solution IMHO. I want the radio back..and SiriusXM as well.
 

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