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40kwh Model S canceled

Discussion in 'Model S: Ordering, Production, Delivery' started by gobagheera, Mar 31, 2013.

  1. gobagheera

    gobagheera Member

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    According to @Justin_Hyde tweet, 40s have been canceled. The people who reserved 40kwh will get 60s that will be limited to 40kwh.
     
  2. Man_Utd

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    Thought it was an April 1st thing, but guess not.

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  4. ohmslaw

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    Lyon 2016 S P100DL, 2016 X P90D

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    Well isn't this an interesting development...

    Put on your hip waders 'cause there's going to be a sh*t storm over this one.
     
  6. wts13

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    If it turns out that people can hack their 40kw's into 60kw's, I'll be hella pissed :p

    What does the last paragraph mean? Is Supercharging now included in the price of the 60kw (meaning that people like me who paid extra will be refunded) or is it merely software limited like the 40kw pack if you don't pay for it?
     
  7. Trnsl8r

    Trnsl8r Blue 85kwh since 12/8/12

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    So put another way... There is a $10,000 incentive (per unit) in hacking a piece of software code in a car that's selling very well in Silicon Valley. Okidokey then...

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    I think you're right. This will be NYT all over again...

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    I think it means they never bothered with any hardware differences between Supercharge enabled/disabled 60kwh cars, just a software tweak. So now any 60kwh car can be supercharge enabled by $2000 and some secret software setting. (Speculating... but that's what it sounds like.)
     
  8. ohmslaw

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    The hardware is there, but if you want to use it you need to pay and they'll turn it on.
     
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    Big bonuses for all 40 and 60kw customers out there!
     
  10. Jason S

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    4% want the 40Kwh... ok, I guess that makes some sense. Existing orders get filled with something that gives the range of the 40 but prolly actually has many miles after the 0 miles left mark.

    Supercharger 'hardware' always seemed like a magical thing to me. Never could figure out what exactly they were talking about. So just going with all cars get supercharger 'hardware' and you pay extra for the privilege on a 60Kwh battery is a small step to just including access for everybody anyway. But they've prolly already cashed some checks with the extra cost, so they can't go back without sending out some refunds.
     
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    I'm sorry...but...this software limited business rubs me the wrong way. If the hardware is there, I should damn well be able to use it. My $0.03.
     
  12. ohmslaw

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    Then you should be willing to pay for it.
     
  13. ohaq

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    I think all 60s will have the hardware but still have to pay 2000 to be able to use the chargers i.e. have the functionality enabled. I wonder what about the 40 ones they will limit the range but can they use superchargers? or even pay 2000 to have it enabled.
     
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    Trnsl8r Blue 85kwh since 12/8/12

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    Wow if you bought a 40 you gotta a hell of a deal. You basically can get the extended range later on if you end up needing it. Plus I doubt you will have any battery wear like the other packs because its still a much larger battery pack. Consider yourselves very lucky IMHO.
     
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    Trnsl8r Blue 85kwh since 12/8/12

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    To be fair about the supercharger access, it's not just about flipping a switch in the hardware, there is also the usage of the superchargers (wear, tear, and electrons). If supercharger access is not worth anything to you, you saved $2k. It's another way of looking at it.
     
  17. stopcrazypp

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    The idea is not to piss off the people who paid $10k extra for the 60kWh pack and $2k for supercharging. You essentially get a free boost to your resale value since your car is now easily upgradeable to one level higher and you also get a boost in performance and longevity of the pack. There's really nothing to complain about if you reserved a 40kWh version.

    The interesting thing is that we now know the price of the 40kWh version is enough to cover the cost of the extra 20kWh worth of batteries.

    Side point, if this was an April fools joke this would be one heck of an April fools joke.
     
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    Agree. But I wouldn't be surprised if some disputes about the software turn up. Someone who runs out of juice and is dead on the road might wonder exactly how the software does its math :)
     
  19. Man_Utd

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    How would the 60kwh people feel that the 40kwh cars got the same thing but paid 10k less. I'm just thankful that they didn't limit the 0-60. And on top of that, you now have a supercharger.
     
  20. ohaq

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    WIth the 40s does it mean that the battery would never be fully charged? What they should do is that you get the full range but after 160 miles the car max speed is only 10-20 mph so that we can get to a charging station, instead of getting it towed away.
     

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