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Exciting. But lots a questions still. When will they "run out" of 1270 batteries? And as they start rolling out the MY's with 4680 batteries from Giga Austin will they also continue to push out 1270 MY's from Fremont? If so, will we be able to choose?
Or
Will they simply stop producing MY's with 1270's altogether and shift those batteries to the S,3,X's. This seems easier to manager the sure to come internet outrage if they are producing both and expecting no one to notice.
Could only the MY P get the 4680 and the MY LR the 2170?My Just for Fun prediction:
They will continue to sell both models (4680 and 1270) at the same price until 1270 supplies run out. The 4680 version will come detuned (less cells, lower voltage) to hit the same power metrics as the 1270 version with the biggest benefit being less weight. An added bonus to Tesla is reducing the amount off cells used per car so they can push out cars faster and be less bottlenecked with 4680 cell supplies. As 4680 production matures, they will be able to add more cells and make a higher range model (100kwh/500mi?). They can also offer a performance boost OTA down the line for detuned 4680 models to unlock their full output.
Hmmmmm.....great analogy! If you give it a possibility, it makes more sense.Could only the MY P get the 4680 and the MY LR the 2170?
No firm data yet. LOTS of speculation. I've been scouring the forums for some form of confirmation. No one has received a 4680 car yet. to my knowledge.Any consensus that cars with 4680 will see a boost in range too? Trying to time a Y that would likely come from Fremont based on my location.
Yeah, given Tesla is still using 1865 cells in S and X, I think they will find a place for them until they have excess battery capacity which won’t be anytime soon.2170 is not going anywhere soon. You guys forget that Shanghai still uses 2170 for most models other than standard range MY/M3, which use LFP. Berlin will also uses 2170 once production started soon. Tesla Confirms: First Cars From Giga Berlin Will Use 2170 Cells.
No, they don’t do enough volume to take up the entire Y production out of Austin once it its rolling and Austin will be producing Y’s with structural packs only, which is a different chassis.Could only the MY P get the 4680 and the MY LR the 2170?
Video was inaccurate about Austin Model Y will be the only one using aluminum casting parts. Others have this too, just different amount. We don't know yet, but imagine the cost of replacing of in these large casting parts after an accident.That video gives me anxiety for the Fremont MYP we are expecting delivery on Feb 15. I know we'll end up accepting in the end but I'm going to be bummed we miss out on this.
Thank you for sharing.
This is a deep dive into the physics of range and performance comparisons of the 2170’s vs 4680’s. It may surprise you that range won’t change much but performance Could with an estimated 200kg weight reduction. It’s a lot easier for Tesla to “detune” the power than it would be to decrease the range. And because the range will basically be the same all they need to do to keep the old and new model y comparable is a slight detune. So the switch is a lot less difficult than people are speculating.
Why idiotic? It’s a lever for Tesla to increase the lead on competition. Acceleration gap is closing with other EVs so winning on efficiency and range though innovation is a differentiator. A 400 mile Y and 3 would crush any current and near future competition.Why would anyone in their right mind think they’re all the sudden going to bump range in new pack Y’s? Like put yourself in Elons shoes for a half a minute…
It’s idiotic to think they’ll do anything but match current capacity.