I predict the 4680 MYP will cost and perform the same as with the original batteries, but at sometime in the future those owners will be offered a acceleration boost upgrade at an additional cost. The same as they did with the MY Long range.
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4680 MYP Acceleration Boost Upgrade prediction.
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Is this a finger in the air type prediction?
Or is there something to back up this prediction?
NoGasNoBrakes
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Possibly this thread.
Tesla sales rep said MY with 4680 will NOT have longer range
I just got notified that my new MY-P VIN has been assigned. Sales rep told me that my car has the new Ryzen chip plus all the other new stuff except for the 4680 battery. I live in SoCal so the car is coming out of Fremont. He proceeded to say that the 4680 battery will NOT offer longer range...
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Jim R
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He said that, but maybe he's guessing too. When you upgrade the batteries to ones with more power, something should be better.Possibly this thread.
Tesla sales rep said MY with 4680 will NOT have longer range
I just got notified that my new MY-P VIN has been assigned. Sales rep told me that my car has the new Ryzen chip plus all the other new stuff except for the 4680 battery. I live in SoCal so the car is coming out of Fremont. He proceeded to say that the 4680 battery will NOT offer longer range...
Blue Magoo …. Do you have any reason for this claim? Any evidence ?
Just my common sense and Teslas past practice. The new (4680) model Y performance we'll probably have the same performance statistics, to provide a level sales field with the Fremont. It will just be lighter and more rigid with the potential for better acceleration due to being lighter.
Battery doesn't have anything to do with acceleration. The motor(s) are what push the car.
Will there be updated, higher capacity motors along with the battery change?
Will there be updated, higher capacity motors along with the battery change?
Destiny1701
22’ M3LR ‘DrkNite’/ 22’ MYP BliueRocket
Tesla will never allow the MYP to match or approach the S LR 3.1 sec time. That’s one of the limiting factors here in keeping the 2 models seperate enough. Unless LR S goes to 2.9, I doubt very much they will adjust the MYP down to 3.2/3.3 0-60.
Yeah, it’s called profit margin.
Also efficiency goes up with a more efficient battery setup for the same range.
Range and power are not the only 2 metrics to consider.
Just as a note for all, once Austin models start production Fremont will get the same upgrade. No company would keep 2 SKUs and BOMS for the same model… this is just not a smart business practice. You will have identical cars out of A and F production facilities within 1/4 time.
My guess is they will just shut Fremont down on MY once Austin is up to capacity. Then Fremont can focus on CT, Semi and Roadster.
Lol. As if a “sales” rep is going to acknowledge that the car you are getting next week will be lessor then the future model. Yeah, that’s not going to happen.Possibly this thread.
Tesla sales rep said MY with 4680 will NOT have longer range
I just got notified that my new MY-P VIN has been assigned. Sales rep told me that my car has the new Ryzen chip plus all the other new stuff except for the 4680 battery. I live in SoCal so the car is coming out of Fremont. He proceeded to say that the 4680 battery will NOT offer longer range...
Tesla is going to be under media/social pressure for the 4680s to show improvement in some way for the buyer. Tesla already has industry-leading margins, and improving that further may backfire and come across as greedy...and the buying public if fickle. VW and Ford dealers are charging well over MSRP and they still have no inventory, which shows solid EV demand across all brands, and there are enough studies out there to show that real word range is getting very close between the MYLR and the competition.
I understand what you're saying but nowadays it's Tesla setting the limitation on it's cars. The proof is the model Y long range can accelerate much faster if you're willing to pay another $2000 for a software upgrade.
Terminator857
Active Member
You need voltage and current to supply the motor. Without the necessary voltage and current supplied by the battery a more powerful motor isn't going to help.
Which you can happily ignore, to take advantage of the flatter charging curve, thanks to the larger top buffer. Should also help avoiding battery degradation, no?
Hurricane4911
IT Guy From 1980-2013, Retired
Destiny1701
22’ M3LR ‘DrkNite’/ 22’ MYP BliueRocket
Uh….increased margins per vehicle. Simple.
Costs them nothing.
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