We'll I started off at 65-73, with CC on. Then I was getting warnings that I needed to lower my speed to <60 then <55, then <50 then <45 to make it. I lowered my speed some -- which wasn't safe as everyone else around my was not & yet my range kept slowing lowering, percent by percent. I was trying to keep the energy needle as neutral to as possible when CC wasn't on.
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Missile Toad
MSLR Wht/Blk/19 | OD 6/10/21 | RN11512
Worst case scenario for me has been charging at Supercharger at <10% SoC, in 27ºF, unpaired, but after a 35-40 minute drive. This leaves the 70D battery warmed at initial charge time. Peak charge rates was 72 kW tapering to 60 when I reached 50% SoC.
I have a 70D, and that's spot on as to what I experienced with a 90% charge (I'm assuming the OP meant 90%).
At first I was a little alarmed like the OP, but then I realized it's just a seasonal thing. It will go back up during the spring/summer.
You'll still have some range loss, but it's not as dramatic as the loss the range indicator gives you during the winter.
At first I was a little alarmed like the OP, but then I realized it's just a seasonal thing. It will go back up during the spring/summer.
You'll still have some range loss, but it's not as dramatic as the loss the range indicator gives you during the winter.
Hugh Mannity
Mediocre Member
NikeWings
Active Member
When those speed reduction warnings appear, it's time to tuck in behind an 18 wheeler. Drafting is an excellent range booster.
Missile Toad
MSLR Wht/Blk/19 | OD 6/10/21 | RN11512
1. Was that 115 kW sustained over more than 2 minutes?
2. Which battery size is your car?
3. Was the battery warmed by, say, previous driving over 15 minutes?
I've had my 70D for just a few months now and I've experienced about 101-105kW SpC rates at 2 sites below 28% SoC.. and it was awesome!
It tapered down to 90kw but held steady up to almost 60% then it dropped to 60/70kw rates after.
This of course was at a BIG newer site with lots of stalls. Everything else here just gives 40 to 60kw usually.
I had been driving for an hour on the highway @75 or so in 8-10 deg f temp.
I didn't sit in the car, I went inside for tacos and it was charged when I came back out to 90% (my set point)
P100d ap2
there was one other S at the SC station, 2 stalls over
Okay, a P100D with a warm battery from an hour of fast driving. In that case that rate makes sense. A 70 kWh car can't reach that in ideal conditions, and nobody can do that on a cold pack.
Electric700
Active Member
I have experienced Supercharger slowdowns. You should call the number listed on the Supercharger when this happens in order to report the issue: 877.798.3752.
I learned on our recent road trip that you really need to drive for at least an hour at 20f to get the 90kw+ charge rates. We discovered this after only getting 40kw after driving at 55 mph or so for 45 minutes which isn't enough to warm up the pack.
NikeWings
Active Member
Not sure of the precise point in time, but agree that it takes time. My non-scientific approach is using regen as my guide. Until regen is fully kicked in, my battery is still too cold for full strength charging. Just a gauge, but it works for me as there is such a noticable impact to regen from a cold/cool battery which is why charging upon arrival home, reaching destination or amid long distance travel is optimal. A warm batery already exists.
Culver City and at almost midnight.
Hung out with the TESLOOP dude and talked shop! Now my wife wants an X ;-(
Haha, yeah we went through that as well but then realized it'd be worth it to wait a few years for a lighter version without falcon doors and optional air suspension...
