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I’m curious what sort of degradation people have seen on their 75Ds.

I’ve driven 21,000 miles on my Dec 2017 build and my rated range is down to 240 miles at this point. This is down from 245 in the last 1000 miles driven. Per Remote S, I have 68.6 kWh usable. Does this seem normal or excessive?

Anyone else care to share?

75D bought new June 2018; I'm at almost 19,000 miles and the battery just recently went from "100%" to "95%" per SmartCharge. I get about 245 miles since I started checking a few months ago compared to the 259 Tesla had displayed when I picked her up. I do however wonder if she ever really got 259 or if that was just a Tesla showroom delivery thing. In any event, this seems to be in range with the stated loss of 5% range in the first 15K and - hopefully - another 5% over the next 150K. I try not to hurt the pack, generally, charge to 80% or less (I will often just charge to 60 during the week since I don't do a lot of mileage); I do Supercharge when I can since it's free for me as long as I own this car. I probably do 50/50 between home and SC. I think overall the batteries are very well made and unless you really abuse them they will last a long time with minimal loss of range.
 
Let me ask this another way.

I'm buying a used 2016 75D from Tesla (high-ish mileage 40k) and as usually they don't provide details about the history of the car. At delivery, when I see the charge status and rated range for the first time, what numbers should be scary enough so that I refuse delivery based on them?
I think the 5% at the first 15K and 5% for the next 150K is a good guide. Maybe 6 or 7%?
 
Just charged my September 2018 75D (only 13,000 miles) to 100% and only got to a range of 243. I'm pretty pissed about this. 6.2% degradation in 14 months is really bad. I never got 259 and when I took it in for a battery check within the first 3 months they claimed everything was fine. This is false advertisement in my book.
This is normal range - the 259 rating was a maximum possible range and was in my view fiction. I think the real range was closer to 250; you lose about 5% breaking in the battery pack in the first 15K miles. You should be fine but don't charge to 100% - everything I've read says that over 80% damages the battery.
 
I find it odd that so many of us are at 219 and around 244 with 90 and 100 respectively. It almost sounds like software is setting it as I see 219 at 14k miles all the way up to 70k. Something seems off. The fact that 67k later I'm at 219 and some with less than 20k have the same degradation seems odd to me.
I think it's normal. 5% loss the first 15,000 and another 5% over the next 150,000. The problem is the 259-mile rating is fictional, the cars are actually closer to 250.
 
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My car was rated at 259 (MS 75D 2017) BUT I installed the 21" wheels so I was getting about 249ish NEW. Now 2 years and 21k miles I'm getting about 245 avg, so that is about 1.6% loss or 98.4% . I charge at work 90% of the time at 32amp 208V.
I've also noticed if I drive normal, I avg 280w/mile before I was at 320w/mile, so how you drive makes a difference and wheel size!
 
My car was rated at 259 (MS 75D 2017) BUT I installed the 21" wheels so I was getting about 249ish NEW. Now 2 years and 21k miles I'm getting about 245 avg, so that is about 1.6% loss or 98.4% . I charge at work 90% of the time at 32amp 208V.
I've also noticed if I drive normal, I avg 280w/mile before I was at 320w/mile, so how you drive makes a difference and wheel size!

what I want to know is.. when you set your vehicle settings to 21" does your rated miles actually drop.

For example if you had 19" on, it would show 259 rated miles, but as soon as you install 21" and the car detects you have 21", does the rated miles instantly drop to 249?
 
July 2018 build and took delivery 12/31/18. Currently have 21,000 and at home I charge to 90%. This puts me between 221/223 miles of rated range. I haven't charged to 100% in a while so don't remember what it got up to. But the 222 miles of range at 90% has been the norm since I took delivery.
 
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Dec ‘16 75D at 68k miles.

I am down to 210 at 90% daily charge. A bit depressing that my actual range is around 177 miles now.

It seems this under 210 range capacity is consistent with all early 2018 and under 75D owners in this thread. Pretty sad.

Considering downgrading to a long range 3.

Thoughts?
 
Dec ‘16 75D at 68k miles.

I am down to 210 at 90% daily charge. A bit depressing that my actual range is around 177 miles now.

It seems this under 210 range capacity is consistent with all early 2018 and under 75D owners in this thread. Pretty sad.

Considering downgrading to a long range 3.

Thoughts?

So you still get 230+ miles at 100%. Doesn't seem bad at all.

For me the extra range of the 3 isn't needed for 99% of my driving.

I just drove across California and had no problems with my 75D. Still drives for hours without needing to stop and I can easily skip superchargers.

I checked A Better Routeplanner and I wouldn't have saved much time at all with the extra range of, say, a 90D.
 
Charged to 100% today for the first time since late 2017 and got 240 miles in the app. When I entered the car, it said 241, but it's basically a 5.2% drop from the 253 at 100% when I took delivery. This seems a little steep for only driving ~ 14K miles since Sept. 2017, but if it plateaus here for the foreseeable future, then I'm fine with that.
They seem to plateau at around 15K. I have been at around 242 for a year now. It seems to be the normal break-in for the battery.
 
75D bought new June 2018; I'm at almost 19,000 miles and the battery just recently went from "100%" to "95%" per SmartCharge. I get about 245 miles since I started checking a few months ago compared to the 259 Tesla had displayed when I picked her up. I do however wonder if she ever really got 259 or if that was just a Tesla showroom delivery thing. In any event, this seems to be in range with the stated loss of 5% range in the first 15K and - hopefully - another 5% over the next 150K. I try not to hurt the pack, generally, charge to 80% or less (I will often just charge to 60 during the week since I don't do a lot of mileage); I do Supercharge when I can since it's free for me as long as I own this car. I probably do 50/50 between home and SC. I think overall the batteries are very well made and unless you really abuse them they will last a long time with minimal loss of range.
I have the same car built June 2018. I have experienced exactly the same thing with Smartcharge and my charging behavior is similar. I think it's normal - 5% early and then it really tapers off. I have been at about 242 for at least a year now.
 
I’m curious what sort of degradation people have seen on their 75Ds.

I’ve driven 21,000 miles on my Dec 2017 build and my rated range is down to 240 miles at this point. This is down from 245 in the last 1000 miles driven. Per Remote S, I have 68.6 kWh usable. Does this seem normal or excessive?

Anyone else care to share?
I'm at about 22K and I have been at 241.25 (estimate based on 193 at 80%) for about a year now, so it seems to plateau around 15K. Adding 50% to my charge adds 35kWh so I believe I'm at 70 kWh usable. I don't know if I have lost 5 kWh because I don't know if the pack was truly 75 at delivery. It seems to be in line with the averages I'm seeing here; don't stress it - remember this is just an estimate and the conditions you drive under are what really matters.
 
Sometimes the problem goes up, as the post counts goes down.

I tend more to think, having read some of the threads, that 75D never should have been rated at 259miles. Ours is mid 230's, 100% charged. So, I don't believe its a problem battery, like some of the P90Ds. Tesla's dual drive ratings were touted a bit too much, when they started, maybe?
I agree - I don't think I ever got 259. It's an ideal that is not realistic.