No offense to you, but the "resources" thing is the most nonsensical argument to me. Tesla has plenty of human resources, they are simply not being utilized effectively. Tesla has gone on a hiring spree the last two years. They have HUNDREDS of software engineers. Yet nobody at Tesla, out of those hundreds of software engineers or even their managers, is able to devote any resources to making the media player and navigation system competitive. While I'm on it, they don't even have any real UI designers judging by what I see in 8.0. They are "learning on the job". At best that shows a lack of will at the top, at worst incompetency.
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No offense to you, but the "resources" thing is the most nonsensical argument to me. Tesla has plenty of human resources, they are simply not being utilized effectively. Tesla has gone on a hiring spree the last two years. They have HUNDREDS of software engineers. Yet nobody at Tesla, out of those hundreds of software engineers or even their managers, is able to devote any resources to making the media player and navigation system competitive. While I'm on it, they don't even have any real UI designers judging by what I see in 8.0. They are "learning on the job". At best that shows a lack of will at the top, at worst incompetency.
Too many broken promises, and Tesla keeps doing it because there are no consequences.
Some don't believe its a new bug with 8.0. Other threads also report what's happening is with the same set of songs that can potentially be played on a USB device, if you press "random shuffle", Media Player will start playing that track and from there play though what at first appears to be random tracks -- but then if you go off, maybe reboot the CID with the same stick in place, and come back to that same list again, then select the same first song where you originally turned on "random shuffle", the same subsequent sequence of songs you heard the first time is played again... and over and over.
IMHO and others that have coded random number generators, it comes down to Tesla is not using a random-enough seed in its "random shuffle" algorithm. A great workaround is to just select a different song when you begin "random shuffle" and the sequence will become different based on that song you select... In other words, Tesla's "random shuffle" isn't random enough for some of us that pay close attention.
The random seed should be based on the computer's clock. I learned that in 10th grade.
Wellll, I guess this dates me, but there was no computer science course when I was in 10tg grade. But, there are 2 ways to go non-sequential:
hash key, which applies an algorithm to current track to get next track. Because hash key is a constant, non-sequential order will be same until you change list.
Random number within range. Clock as good a way to generate as any.
Tesla clearly uses hash key.
You are about to find out the cost of print ads. I highly recommend either go with short list only or carefully vet the longer list. This group tends to get passionate about a lot of ideas, not all high priority. A list of 50 things will destroy credibility of effort. It will look like nit picking.
theslimshadyist
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BertL
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Seriously? Has anyone else confirmed this? The figurative "unusable" appears to be changing to a *literal* "unusable"!!!!!
Look, I know I'm late to the party, but I just wanted to add an Australian voice to the clamour: Please, FIX THE USB INTERFACE, Tesla. Fix it.I cannot like this enough! 'Zactly. If it absolutely 100% relies on live Internet connectivity to function, I distrust it, dislike it, or hate it. Streaming: when I try to stream anything (video, music, whatever) it never works flawlessly. There are hiccups at the very least, or worse, it stops and I have to manually start it again. If it works at all. Do I have that problem with local files? Not at all. I can listen to any part of my entire music collection anywhere ... for free ... no connections to nothin' required!
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Yeah, like I was saying ... can we stop optimising for always-online stream-cloud everything already?
Boatguy
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The frustration is that owners have been reporting issues in great detail through every available channel for 6-18 months, and reply was 8.0 which is pretty much a "huh?" on the part of Tesla.
Yes, I agree which is why I suggested that the ad contain the "top 5" for each of Nav and Media Player. If I wrote "50" somewhere else then I apologize for the confusion.
Care to name the exact model? I use Sandisk USBs- they get quite hot, which can't be good... never had a failure, though.
I have to say, I am coming to know all the music by ABC and ABBA much better now..
YES! FIX THE USB INTERFACE! ....sorry about the shouting...although I'd use larger caps if I could...I really feel angry every time I encounter these issues...which is basically every time I get in the car...
I hope y'all are writing tesla. This forum may be good for venting, but it is not a formal feedback channel.
hmmm
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This one: https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-128G...TOC2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1476571550&sr=8-2
Works great, stays cool and barely visible in the car when sharpie'ed.
Hmmm. My approach HAD been to put whole collection on terrabyte drive and depend on media player to navigate, so I've scoffed at these little dongles. But ther is some logic here. What if I bought 10 of them and put different genres/playlists on them? Kind of like 8 tracks, but bigger? Slap in the one I'm in the mood for each drive? Nah!
BertL
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That's what some people are already doing -- multiple USB sticks to assist with organization. I refuse to physically clutter my cockpit up with all that and am sort of being a die hard attempting to use a single stick, and when that does not work or i get too frustrated, turn on my $5.99/month SirisuXM station. It's sad, I know.
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hmmm
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Yeah, I am "lucky" to have a lot less music than that, so it works for me. I think I would be too lazy to have to juggle multiple drives too.
On the other hand, if you don't label your multiple USB drives and pick them randomly, all of a sudden, shuffling is now available in 8.0.
btw, is it just me or does your sig kinda read like an online dating profile?
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jcadman22
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This morning, I sent a polite note to [email protected] listing my 2-3 top issues with the media player under 8.0. Just over 12 hours later (on a Saturday, no less), I got a response similar to what others have noted... "your message will be routed to the correct department... blah, blah" So that worked, meh.
I have RSVP'd for one of the local Tesla socials at the end of the month where they plan to show owners some features of 8.0. There's usually a Q&A session involved where I plan to rattle off the list of issues noted in this thread if they have not been addressed via update by then. The audience is owners, we should be in good company and speak with one voice.
I have RSVP'd for one of the local Tesla socials at the end of the month where they plan to show owners some features of 8.0. There's usually a Q&A session involved where I plan to rattle off the list of issues noted in this thread if they have not been addressed via update by then. The audience is owners, we should be in good company and speak with one voice.
Just be prepared, there are owners who do not use USB, just streaming and radio. They may not rise up with you. It will be interesting to see level of support. Please post afterwards!
