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8.0 USB shuffle is no longer random

Discussion in 'Model S: User Interface' started by jcoverton, Oct 7, 2016.

  1. jcoverton

    jcoverton Member

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    I have 6000+ songs on USB which I play most of the time when driving. Because there is no support for playlists I first tried to create lists by genre and re tagged all my songs so I could fake playlists. This did not work as the Media player used Gracenote genre and not mine. As FLAC can have several types of tags I even changed the formats of the tags to see if any were used. No luck. My next solution was to use two USB drives and breakage music into two big playlists. Then I would select the USB drive and select songs and having shuffle selected I would get a random selection across all the music on one of the drives. This also solved the problem with phantom music playing when the car was charging. With shuffle on, the car never reached the end and get stuck on the last song in a selection.

    Now with 8.0 two changes to this have wrecked this process. First the shuffle option turns off regularly so I have to keep, turning it back on. This I could fix by adding an extra step each time started playing music. The bigger issue is that now it plays the same songs in the same order each time. I have listened many times since 8.0 and I now can predict the next "random" song. I have even tried starting with different song but it still does not play different songs. I never noticed this before. Shuffle may not have been totally random but at least I got different music each time.
     
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  2. jerry33

    jerry33 S85 - VIN:P05130 - 3/2/13

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    I found that it didn't play all that randomly in 7 either. I'd hear the same songs for several days in a row if I didn't seed the day by starting on some random song. This is much harder to do in 8 because there's no alphabetic scroll bar. Tesla really needs someone who actually drives the car to vet these upgrades.
     
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  3. Dithermaster

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    OP is correct, I've experienced the same two bugs (random mode gets turned off, and random order repeats). I too predicted the songs just to prove I wasn't making it up. Both of these happen if you use streaming mode then go back to USB (the random order is sometimes different, but will do it eventually). I can't believe this made it through testing.
     
  4. TLej

    TLej Little-Known Member

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    I fourth this observation.
     
  5. cschock

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    Amen, sing it. I have noticed this too. It is absolutely a problem.

    And as a once upon a time programmer, this is just unbelievable to me. Even if there is no true random number generator in the Model S Firmware, it shouldn't be very hard to use the microseconds since the year 2000 modulo the track count to get a pseudo random number key. I mean, I did this sort of thing as an undergrad IN FORTRAN 30+ years ago. How hard could it be?
     
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  6. gsmith63

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    Same here.
     

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