90D Fire Sale?

[jskenney]

Looking at the ev-cpo site, it appears that Telsa is having a fire sale on 90D's. I thought I had done well with a 10k discount a few weeks ago, but the discounts are nearly 20k now. Over 100 with a 12k+ discount, all with at least 7500...

Wow...

 

[Troy]

I wonder if this has anything to do with Tesla releasing Model 3 75/75D range numbers soon on the 28th. Otherwise, it doesn't make any sense to drop CPO prices now at the beginning of Q3 2017 instead of early September. If they didn't believe the Model 3 would affect Model S sales, they would have waited until September to maximize Q3 sales. Apparently, they do think Model S sales will be negatively affected. This might also explain why they are delaying AWD Model 3 production.

I'm expecting 285 mi EPA for the Model 3 75 and 297 mi EPA for the Model 3 75D. Also, I expect the Model 3 75 to start at $45K and the Model 3 75D at $49K. The Model S 90D has 294 mi EPA. Maybe Tesla thought the S90D CPO's wouldn't sell well after they announce the Model 3 range numbers.

Basically, the Model 3 75D should have the same range and performance as the Model S 90D. However, because the battery is 17% smaller, it means the Model 3 75D will cost 17% less to charge, battery degradation will be 17% slower because of fewer charge cycles, supercharge sessions will take 17% shorter because the car is 17% more efficient and of course, the Model 3 will cost much less not to mention it has the newer cell chemistry which might be a requirement for Supercharger V3.

 

[AMPd]

I wonder if this has anything to do with Tesla releasing Model 3 75/75D range numbers soon on the 28th. Otherwise, it doesn't make any sense to drop CPO prices now at the beginning of Q3 2017 instead of early September. If they didn't believe the Model 3 would affect Model S sales, they would have waited until September to maximize Q3 sales. Apparently, they do think Model S sales will be negatively affected. This might also explain why they are delaying AWD Model 3 production.

I'm expecting 285 mi EPA for the Model 3 75 and 297 mi EPA for the Model 3 75D. Also, I expect the Model 3 75 to start at $45K and the Model 3 75D at $49K. The Model S 90D has 294 mi EPA. Maybe Tesla thought the S90D CPO's wouldn't sell well after they announce the Model 3 range numbers.

Basically, the Model 3 75D should have the same range and performance as the Model S 90D. However, because the battery is 17% smaller, it means the Model 3 75D will cost 17% less to charge, battery degradation will be 17% slower because of fewer charge cycles, supercharge sessions will take 17% shorter because the car is 17% more efficient and of course, the Model 3 will cost much less not to mention it has the newer cell chemistry which might be a requirement for Supercharger V3.

Fun math.
But why will there be fewer charge cycles?

 

[Troy]

@AMPd, you are right. I mixed up the car models because I used to compare the Model S 75D and the Model 3 75D. Here is the correct version:
The Model S 90D and the Model 3 75D are expected to have the same range and therefore the same number of charge cycles for the same mileage. Both will have slower degradation than the Model S 75D because of fewer charge cycles.

 

[VikH]

Great discounts on model x and s 90Ds, but the good ones are almost gone. There are some brand new with $18k in discounts.

 

[Spidy]

I think the just want to sell cars and clear the inventory. Don't think there is much more than that. And they can justify discounting the 90 now that they discontinued it, which they can't do with the 75 and 100.

 

[Spidy]

Btw. there are also some discounted 90Ds in Europe now. Mostly Norway and Switzerland, but others might follow.

 

[jskenney]

Looks like they have sold over a hundred 90Ds in the past week! With only 70 or so left. I bought mine 3 weeks ago and missed these crazy discounts thinking that end of quarter would have the best deals, I hadn't considered the possible effects of an end of July Model 3 reveal. sigh ... oh well ... As with all Tesla purchases - you get exactly what you order when you order it.

Also, a shout-out for the folks at

https://ev-cpo.com and Tesla Inventory Search

for making systems to find these deals!

 

[chasercollins]

I pulled the trigger yesterday on a fully loaded 90D with midnight silver metallic and white interior for 13k off with only 800 miles on it.

 

[Reciprocity]

I pulled the trigger yesterday on a fully loaded 90D with midnight silver metallic and white interior for 13k off with only 800 miles on it.

Same, Red S90D loaded with Tan and 1k miles for 18K off. Get them while they are hot.

 

[ItsNotAboutTheMoney]

I wonder if this has anything to do with Tesla releasing Model 3 75/75D range numbers soon on the 28th. Otherwise, it doesn't make any sense to drop CPO prices now at the beginning of Q3 2017 instead of early September. If they didn't believe the Model 3 would affect Model S sales, they would have waited until September to maximize Q3 sales. Apparently, they do think Model S sales will be negatively affected. This might also explain why they are delaying AWD Model 3 production.

I'm expecting 285 mi EPA for the Model 3 75 and 297 mi EPA for the Model 3 75D. Also, I expect the Model 3 75 to start at $45K and the Model 3 75D at $49K. The Model S 90D has 294 mi EPA. Maybe Tesla thought the S90D CPO's wouldn't sell well after they announce the Model 3 range numbers.

Basically, the Model 3 75D should have the same range and performance as the Model S 90D. However, because the battery is 17% smaller, it means the Model 3 75D will cost 17% less to charge, battery degradation will be 17% slower because of fewer charge cycles, supercharge sessions will take 17% shorter because the car is 17% more efficient and of course, the Model 3 will cost much less not to mention it has the newer cell chemistry which might be a requirement for Supercharger V3.

Simple combination of needing to keep sales up, keeping cell sales up and moving obsolete inventory. I expect that they'll be dropping the 90 and then changing the 75's modules to match the 100's, so it's 80/85? and 100 only. That should help sell more cells to get them to the end of the existing 18650 contract sooner, and cutting off supply of vehicles that have the 90's Supercharger issue (max Supercharger rate was lowered although with a slower taper, adding about 5 minutes to charging time).

 

[Bobbyducati]

Same, Red S90D loaded with Tan and 1k miles for 18K off. Get them while they are hot.

snagged the same car with black interior for 19.5k off (including referral). i was not planning on buying for another month or two but too good of a deal, and had everything i wanted.

 

[Bobbyducati]

supply of vehicles that have the 90's Supercharger issue (max Supercharger rate was lowered although with a slower taper, adding about 5 minutes to charging time).

can you elaborate on this? I dont SC very often, so not a huge concern but am wondering what the details are on this