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Driving over 60 years, ran out once, over 50 ago.I've been driving for 50 years. I've never run out of gas, ever.
Depending on your speed, that is a possibility. Speed kills range.I pick up my model 3 performance next week. I have to make a short trip to shreveport, la from Dallas, Tx. ABRP shows it takes 96% of a full battery to go 196 miles. Tesla trip planner is about the same. Is the range really that poor of a Tesla? Especially when this Model 3 advertises a 315 mile range. This is really bothering me?
The EPA 315 mile range the Model 3 Performance was given had 18" wheels so there's no way to get that same range with 20" wheels in the same test.I pick up my model 3 performance next week. I have to make a short trip to shreveport, la from Dallas, Tx. ABRP shows it takes 96% of a full battery to go 196 miles. Tesla trip planner is about the same. Is the range really that poor of a Tesla? Especially when this Model 3 advertises a 315 mile range. This is really bothering me?
I went back and checked out ABRP for shreveport to dallas. Its showing over 90% usage, but it also shows that the M3P 2021 is a "beta" with a reference consumption of close to 290wh/mi. I think you will likely be closer to 255wh/mi as their beta estimates are often intentionally high, though you'll need to spend some time with the car to find that out for sure. If that were the case, though, you'd likely use closer to 80% of the battery, which, tbh is about what I'd expect for this trip.I pick up my model 3 performance next week. I have to make a short trip to shreveport, la from Dallas, Tx. ABRP shows it takes 96% of a full battery to go 196 miles. Tesla trip planner is about the same. Is the range really that poor of a Tesla? Especially when this Model 3 advertises a 315 mile range. This is really bothering me?
The test Tesla does on all of their newer cars with heatpump is a bit different than what ICE vehicles do as doing a 5 cycle additional test to get a better derating factor than .7 worked in Tesla's favor and enables tesla to list an even greater range figure.The problem is in the "advertises" word. Tesla actually list EPA range. To understand what that means, you need to understand how the EPA do their tests and come up with that number. Essentially, they do:
- 5 loops of some low speed city driving and some highway driving at 55mph.
- They then continue at around 55mph until the car cannot hold 55mph.
All of that with no wind, at 72F, on a dyno. Once you understand that, you'll understand that you cannot compare your 75mph highway long stretch with that.
It's the same for ICE cars with mpg, with one main difference. As ICE engine are very inefficient, they suffer more in city driving so you would do worse mpg there. On the highway, you run the ICE engine for less time so the inefficiency isn't as bad. You might even do better than EPA. An EV is very efficient so it loses to things like aerodynamism (i.e. speed is bad).