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A few news tidbits from a visit to the Menlo Park showroom

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  1. MikeK

    MikeK R#129, TSLA shareholder

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    #1 MikeK, Aug 4, 2012
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    Howdy,

    On a whim, I dropped by the Menlo Park showroom today while I was out doing errands. It was a bit overcast, so I thought it would be a good chance to see my short list of colors outside on a less than sunny day.

    Anyway, while I was there, I had a little chance to chat with Tesla folks, and spent a little time with the same white Model S (FR000109, I think?) that was on static display at the last Palo Alto event. I must say, if you're finding yourself a bit too caught up in all the angst on the forums, and you can drop by a showroom and just sit in the car for a bit, it sure makes that stuff disappear. ;)

    Anyway, new news:
    • The Universal Mobile Connector will cost $500 if you want to purchase an extra. This is one of the questions I had in terms of my final configuration, because I don't want to have to plug and unplug an L14-50 every evening. My plan was to either put in a dedicated UMC for my garage (carrying the other in the car), or just put in a HPWC so that I would have a dedicated wall-mounted charging station. Now that I know the price of a second UMC, I will be putting in a HPWC and carrying the included UMC in the car.
    • Supercharging for the 60kWh cars will not require additional hardware. Final details are still forthcoming, but the "TBD" stuff on the web site is most likely related to whether there will be a fee to use the chargers, and/or whether there's a limit to their use under the battery warranty. For me, that's fine -- I expect my use of the Superchargers to be a rare event, so I don't mind paying a reasonable fee to use one, and I can't imagine a scenario in which I would use them often enough to put undue wear on the pack. If you need frequent Supercharger use, the 85kWh seems like the way to go. Anyway, still some questions to be answered here, but the bit about no additional hardware was good to know.[EDIT: See below]
    • Next week's event in Palo Alto is expected to have a pretty good assortment of cars. I'm pleased to be going as a guest of another TMC member, so hopefully I'll be able to see my final color choices on the cars before I finalize on the following Monday! I'm also hoping that some of the latest production cars that George mentioned in his blog will be at that show, because that will be a good indication of how things have progressed on fit & finish.

    By the way, the car in the showroom had some music on a USB stick. I was able to find a song I am familiar with ("Sail" by AWOLNATION) -- this is a track with a ton of bass, and it sounded just fine with the EQ set flat and the speakers centered, with the windows open. Turning the Dolby on and off definitely made the sound different. If anything, the bass was a bit beefier with the Dolby off. I'm sorry I didn't bring my newly-purchased USB stick with my hand-picked tunes, but this was an impromptu visit. I will drop by again and/or bring the stick to the upcoming event to try it out, but having tried that one track, I'm feeling fine about the audio system.

    All in all, it was a great visit. The Tesla folks were super helpful and friendly as always. There was a Signature Red car out front in addition to the white car inside. Dang, that red is a beauty.

    Oh, I was there for about an hour and a half, and there was a steady stream of people visiting, looking at the car, talking about putting down deposits, etc. Made me feel very good about the future for this great car.

    EDIT: I spoke with my Product Specialist by phone 8/8, and he said that the Supercharging information I got at the showroom has been superseded. The official word now is that Supercharging details for 60kWh cars will be announced in September, and it may or may not require addition equipment in the car. For those folks who go ahead and Finalize 60kWh now, once those details are released, we will have the option to switch to 85kWh if that sounds like the better option when all details are known, with no delay in delivery.

    EDIT AGAIN:Apparently the news about the Supercharger hardware being standard was correct, so now we can look forward to the September event for the details on whether there are charges or limitations associated with its use.
     
  2. MikeK

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    Oh, one other fun observation. They had an iPad on hand in the showroom, and they had a bunch of photos from the test drive events, many by TMC or Tesla Forums members. I thought that was great -- definitely a nice way to show the cars in a variety of lighting conditions and environments.
     
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    Thanks for the feedback MikeK. I am a recovering Audioholic:wink: and 1. I am happy to hear (pun intended) your take on the sound system. 2. Glad to get some positive thread vibes from an OP. Thanks.
     
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    Thanks for the info! The sound system sounds like a very good system that only needs minor tweaks to make it sound the way that it should.
    I am still hoping that I can still make it to Houston next weekend for my test drive. It all depends on the storm that is headed in our direction.
    If flights aren't cancelled due to the hurricane....I'm Houston bound!
     
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    One other thing I forgot to mention. I read somewhere (maybe here, maybe a review) that the back seat is hard to get in and out of, because of how narrow the doors are at the bottom. I'm a big guy (6'1, 235). I didn't have any trouble getting in and out of the back. The bottom of the door is a little narrow, yes, but it's not difficult to deal with. My head did touch the headliner in the back on the non-pano roof. I am getting the pano, personally.
     
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    Was sure excited to come across the Hawthorne design studio yesterday and was sorely disappointed that there was no showroom where I could check out a car. But it's reports like this that keep me going. The time is going by so so slowly.
     
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    That's $700 cheaper than the HPC, plus it being cheaper to install a 50amp RV outlet than a 90 amp(?) dedicated connection for the HPC.

    BTW, the red at Menlo is car #48 - it's a Beta car. The sunroof doesn't open and there are lots of things that are improved in the ~ #100 and up RC cars.
     
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    Hi Mike,

    Were you able to test the audio at high volume? That's the one of the things am very curious about in the Model S.

    I have a very nice 550W 12-speaker Infinity system in my current car and it sounds extremely good at high volume. I would turn it up at a volume where I can't even hear the engine or anything other than the music. That's how I like it, the whole car is filled with sound and you are in the middle of it. At that high volume, I can still distinguish each instrument/voice with clarity, no distortion, and a deep bass that you can feel in your chair.

    The other thing I'm curious about is if the Model S has a feature that automatically converts an ordinary stereo track into a 5.1 surround signal. I have that feature in my car and it is very nice, it places you right in the center of the music, as if you were on stage with the artist.
     
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    That's what I'm talking about with regards to the quality that I hope to find in the Model S. That's the best audiophile description of what a sound system should sound like in a top dollar luxury car!
     
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    Thanks Mike! I'll be at the event next weekend for two test drives. Can't wait! Sail is a good song so that's reassuring!

    I'll probably get another cable too down the road. No fancy charging station for me.

    Also, I'm doomed in the back at 6'8. I dunno how I'll fit while my wife test drives :(.
     
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    Thanks Mike - BTW was the sound system the standard or upgraded version? I going to put number of songs on a Memory stick and keep it in my current car just for similar impromptu visits to the Denver Park Meadows store whenever I am in the neighborhood.
     
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    That contradicts what Tesla says on the design studio web page:

    And it makes sense that the car would require extra hardware to use the supercharger, because there would have to be contactors to physically disconnect the on-board charger.
     
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    I am confused, are you and your wife both getting test drives?

    We are flying over from New Zealand and they were adament about only giving us one test drive (we asked).
     
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    Wow! I thought I was crazy when I flew to Fremont last October for the test rides!

    You should definitely tell Tesla folks there that you came from NZ for the test drives. No promises, but if they have any open slots they'll very likely try to let both of you have a test drive. They have to tell you one per reservation, but once you're there they have a bit of flexibility on these things.
     
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    I was told that it was "new information" -- that the 60kW cars would come standard with the necessary equipment.
     
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    Premium version.

    I didn't try at high volume. There were other folks there, and a little girl sitting in the passenger seat, so I kept it reasonable. The car does have a Dolby feature that converts stereo to a simulated multichannel. The little girl's dad was wanting to take a turn in the driver's seat, so I didn't spent a lot of time tweaking settings. And, the showroom was so busy that I didn't have another shot to get in the car!
     
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    #17 smorgasbord, Aug 4, 2012
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    The stereo in Model S is louder than any other stereo in the world, because its volume control goes to 11. It really does.

     
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    True enough. However, the HPC is hardwired and provides a convenient and attractive solution for cable organization. Yes, I could do a tidy job of mounting the UMC and hanging the cable, but I'm planning on owning this car for a long time, and I'd rather have the elegant solution offered by the HPWC.

    Fortunately, since I've known for three years that I was buying a Model S, we pre-wired for this connection during a remodel. I am currently using the circuit for my RAV4-EV charger, but the wiring was sized for a Tesla-size circuit (and pulled in conduit).
     
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    Or you can put two deposits down ;)
     
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    MikeK, Thanks for the additional info! Were you able to determine whether the current cup holders will accommodate standard 3" diameter water bottles? You mentioned on the Opportunity Console thread that you'd try to check that next time you stopped by a Tesla store. Thx.

    Also, if they have a car with textile interior at the Palo Alto event would you mind checking to see if it has those kangaroo pockets on the front seats like the leather interior front seats do? Haven't gotten the answer to this elsewhere yet. Thx.
     

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