AndyM
Member
The web site is very helpful, and considered the most current... but, with all the changes happening, we should not consider it 100% accurate.
[ Sorry, Emily@teslamotors, I know you're doing well just trying to keep up! ]
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The web site is very helpful, and considered the most current... but, with all the changes happening, we should not consider it 100% accurate.
[ Sorry, Emily@teslamotors, I know you're doing well just trying to keep up! ]
CyberDutchie
Active Member
Lol, I had not seen or heard of the movie spinal tap. My wife recognized it from the clip. Is it true Elon wanted the Model S volume to go up to 11 because of this pop culture movie? He definitely is a movies guy, I wouldn't be surprised. Makes for a good story when having guests in your car, I like it! :biggrin:
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I'm really sorry, since this was an impromptu trip by the showroom, I didn't have the water bottle in the car. I will take it with me to the event next weekend, though, and I've made a note to check for the kangaroo pouch on the textile, if available.
Yes, put in a second fully refundable deposit. <whistles softly>Or you can put two deposits down
AndyM
Member
Thanks for the info; this is certainly reassuring. However, I also heard a similar song with enough bass in the song to evaluate the low end range of the Model S stereo using adjusted EQ setting, sound centering adjustment, Dolby on/off, etc. and not from USB in order to compare the sound with my Hybrid Escalade. The result was that the sound quality of the Model S is inferior to my Hybrid Escalade due to the minimal low range response - at least in my opinion.
Perhaps the Model S does have good low end response and is adequate for most people, and I'm just used to the magnificent sounds that come out of the Hybrid Escalade from any source. Although I'm not an audiophile, it is just my opinion; I think the Model S needs to beef up the bass of its premium sound system since all cars in the just the 70k price range have this beefed-up low end response via Mark Levinson, Bose, whatever.
There are trade offs to everything. And I'm just going to have to deal with it. I hope driving gas free, free of OPEC's whims, and never having to waste time out of my day to go to gas station will make up for the 4 problems I find with Model S. I think it might, but it remains to be seen - just my own opinion. I certainly am excited to take delivery that is for sure.
contaygious
Active Member
Yeah our mini s has a harman kardon sound system with 10 speaker 500 watt, 8 speaker processing 5.1 and the bass is super sharp with 4 subs. The tesla system sounds better on paper so interested to compare. Not sure what type of subs it has.
smorgasbord
Active Member
Depends on when and just where you are. Menlo has less traffic, but it's open less hours. Santana Row is open something like 10-9 every day, but is more crowded. Right now, both apparently have Test Drive cars you can't test drive, but they're the closest to production we've seen outside of the Founders who have received cars.
Menlo has some other fun stuff, such as the body prototype for Roadster, Roadster VP1. It also has the original Model S alpha complete with interior filled with electronics, duct-taped body pieces, and Aston Martin pivot door handles.
bonnie
I play a nice person on twitter.
Menlo also has the big glass window into the service area - always something good to see there.
Yup, I've read your posts saying that you feel that your Escalade has better sound, and it certainly may. I've never heard one so I can't offer an opinion on that specific comparison. OTOH, my RAV4-EV has been upgraded with a/d/s amps, JL Audio speakers and a JL sub. It sounds great, and I'm also a bass player, so I have an opinion on bass response. That's my basis for comparison, and on the one track I got to try, the model S audio sounded just fine to me. I didn't have my USB stick along so I couldn't try my other specially chosen test tracks, but I will at my next opportunity.
I just thought it was important to counter the ongoing criticism with an in person report of perfectly satisfactory experience. Let me also say as I have before that I was underwhelmed by the sound in the car I drove at the Fremont event. Quite underwhelmed. But that was unfamiliar, possibly streamed audio, so it may have been the source, or it may be that further refinements have been made. I'm feeling much better about the sound now, and I hope that my upcoming testing with more tracks will bear that out!
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Tommy
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JL Audio subs pretty much set the hi-end home stereo market on it's head with their Fathom series powered sub-woofers; they are universally regarding as in the "Class A" category.
I give a lot of credence to your review of the bass output of the Model S given your background as a bass player and the equipment you installed in your car.
One suggestion I would make is to use the highest bit rate the Model S system can sample in your demo material next time your at the Menlo Park showroom.
I give a lot of credence to your review of the bass output of the Model S given your background as a bass player and the equipment you installed in your car.
One suggestion I would make is to use the highest bit rate the Model S system can sample in your demo material next time your at the Menlo Park showroom.
Norbert
TSLA will win
[...]or it may be that further refinements have been made. I'm feeling much better about the sound now, and I hope that my upcoming testing with more tracks will bear that out!
It wasn't in the last shareholder's meeting, but not long before, that Elon mentioned, as an example of what they were working on, that they were optimizing the sound system. I don't know if there is a possibility that some of the test cars cars have those improvements, and others don't. But it's something that was being worked on not too long ago.
I think that's a very reasonable and balanced comment. I very much enjoy listening to music, but about half the time in the car I listen to sports or news, so it's not a be-all, end-all thing for me that the audio system be perfect. And, if one's ear is so finely tuned to the most subtle aspects of music playback, then how on earth can you stand to listen in a car of any kind in the first place? No matter how loud, the road noise (and ICE noise in an ICE vehicle) can certainly be heard in the background ruining one's otherwise perfect audio.Yup, I've read your posts saying that you feel that your Escalade has better sound, and it certainly may. I've never heard one so I can't offer an opinion on that specific comparison. OTOH, my RAV4-EV has been upgraded with a/d/s amps, JL Audio speakers and a JL sub. It sounds great, and I'm also a bass player, so I have an opinion on bass response. That's my basis for comparison, and on the one track I got to try, the model S audio sounded just fine to me. I didn't have my USB stick along so I couldn't try my other specially chosen test tracks, but I will at my next opportunity.
I just thought it was important to counter the ongoing criticism with an in person report of perfectly satisfactory experience. Let me also say as I have before that I was underwhelmed by the sound in the car I drove at the Fremont event. Quite underwhelmed. But that was unfamiliar, possibly streamed audio, so it may have been the source, or it may be that further refinements have been made. I'm feeling much better about the sound now, and I hope that my upcoming testing with more tracks will bear that out!
I think that the vast majority of buyers are more like me...I want a decent audio system, but I'm not willing to pay $2000 more to have a perfect one. For those who absolutely MUST have some audiophile's wet dream of a stereo, then just plan to do an aftermarket upgrade and not complain to the point that the rest of us are subsidizing your personal preferences.
I haven't heard the JL home subs, but the one in my car is a good performer. (I'm putting Seaton SubMersive HPs and Velodyne SC-IWs in my home listening room, which is nearing completion...)
My USB stick contains AIFF, WAV, ALAC, 256kbps AAC and 320kbps MP3 versions of my test files, so I aim to see which of these formats the car is able to play, and whether there's any obvious difference between them.
One thing that will be interesting will be to see how the audio sounds when the car is on the road. Something that sounds fine sitting still may sound a bit thin when it's competing with road noise.
My USB stick contains AIFF, WAV, ALAC, 256kbps AAC and 320kbps MP3 versions of my test files, so I aim to see which of these formats the car is able to play, and whether there's any obvious difference between them.
One thing that will be interesting will be to see how the audio sounds when the car is on the road. Something that sounds fine sitting still may sound a bit thin when it's competing with road noise.
And hope that the installer does not drill into the battery the way some have drilled into the Prius' battery. My one and only foray into an aftermarket audio system convinced me I never wanted anything to do with an aftermarket system ever again.
That's a legitimate concern, as is avoidance of high-voltage wiring, but it can be worked around by dealing with a good installer who is willing to listen and learn. The installer who did my RAV4-EV back in 2002 or 2003 had never done an EV before (not a big surprise!), and I chatted with him extensively to alert him to the fact that the battery pack was under the floor of the car. When attaching the a/d/s amp under the driver's seat, where normally they would have screwed it to the floorboards, they instead affixed it to the carpet. All the other wires were simply run under carpet and trim, and the only other holes they had to drill were in plastic trim to install the high-mount tweeters in the back and on the doors.
If you work with a quality shop, it should be possible to do aftermarket stuff without breaking anything.
The HPC can be installed on a 50A line. It has an internal setting to limit its maximum current based on what the line can safely provide.
(I, on the other hand, also decided I didn't need it and put in a 14-50 outlet.)
