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A pickup truck ran intentionally into 4 people at a ‘Tesla Explores‘ event in Detroit

Discussion in 'EVents' started by NeverFollow, Jun 8, 2017.

  1. NeverFollow

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    The question is whether he was drunk and mishandled the operation of his vehicle or if he was drunk and thought it would be okay to take out some people who dared to be interested in Tesla.
     
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    Sorry to hear about the injuries! Sounds like some could be serious.

    But this is likely a DUI accident. Happens hundreds of times a day in America.
     
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    It may be DUI, but if it was done intentionally, as reports indicate it was, it was no "accident".
     
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    When you hit shiit with the front of your car, it is almost never an 'accident'. It might be stupidity, or it might be deliberate, but it is not an accident. Driving into stuff has a bad outcome. It's nearly impossible to drive into stuff if you are paying attention. If you don't pay attention while driving, the outcome can be a crash. So not really an 'accident', more like a possible outcome to a behavior. Juggle chainsaws, and if you get cut, is that is accident?
     
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    Guy was drunk and on drugs. If an event is foreseeable, we shouldn't call it an accident (as @McRat emphasized) but that's the terminology society uses for car collisions (regardless of whether it was truly an accident).
     
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    Horrible what happened, but almost equally as bad is the author of the article trying to imply GM possibly had a role in the accident. GM had nothing to do with this event whatsoever, so why is the author even mentioning them??? Who the F cares if Shinola HQ is close to GM's Hamtramck plant. Is the author implying Mary Barra had a hand in sending out some alcoholic to the event to run over some Tesla fans? And of course Electrek never fails to dig at the Bolt towards the end as well.

    This article is disgusting on multiple fronts, reporting on a horrible event and using it to slam GM. You know 100% that if the truck the drunk driver was driving was a GM product, it would sure as hell been mentioned in the article.
     
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    #11 SMAlset, Jun 9, 2017
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    Very sorry to hear about the 73 year old dying of his injuries. I was shocked to read about this story the other day. And saddened and angry as witnesses said it looked to be intentional. I can't imagine why anyone would switch places with a driver doing this even if it were a family member driving under the influence.

    As far as the press adding details about this being Detroit and near a car manufacturer's location, I can add that my dad worked at a GM plant for decades and when the Japanese cars started to appear here in the U.S. he told me how employees who owned a Japanese car and parked in the factory's massive lots outside the plant had their cars damaged when parked there. Clearly intimidation by vandalism. Given how I've seen accounts here of Tesla vandalism and read about those even in our area, I wouldn't put it past some unstable person doing something like this. Too many news stories of disgruntled people lashing out in violent ways and even murder to not give this some consideration as to motive. Hope not but you never know.


    Well appears to be drug related: Driver admits to taking Ecstasy before fatal crash in Detroit's Midtown, sources say

    And here's live coverage in front of the trailer/Xs with the police blocking off traffic to investigate: 4 people run over by pickup truck at Tesla popup event in Detroit
     
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    At this point we don't know what the driver's mindset or intention was. Witnesses interpret events based on their own preconceptions and biases, and they are frequently wrong.
    The Problem With Eyewitness Testimony
    Why Science Tells Us Not to Rely on Eyewitness Accounts
    How reliable is eyewitness testimony?
    http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/10/how-reliable-eyewitness-testimony-scientists-weigh

    It is certainly possible that the driver had some sort of deranged intent to kill EV supporters. There is no shortage of delusional crazy people in the world. But at this point we don't know what his intent was.
     
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    Electrek just updated its article about this tragedy. See A truck ran over 4 people at a Tesla event in Detroit [Updated]

    QUOTE: "the police now says that the driver, who didn’t have a driver’s license, admitted to taking drugs before driving and that the accident wasn’t intentional. The victims were listed as in “temporary serious condition”."

    Of course the driver could be lying to avoid a more serious criminal charge. We can't read his mind so we don't know.
     

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