Go look at the comment section for Politico, CNN, Fox News or any other website where there is zero moderation. People don't let things go on the Internet. There are likely car forums that have zero moderation if that suits your style better but we like to keep things civil here. You don't seem to prefer any intervention to obtain that goal and that's fine.
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Go look at the comment section for Politico, CNN, Fox News or any other website where there is zero moderation. People don't let things go on the Internet. There are likely car forums that have zero moderation if that suits your style better but we like to keep things civil here. You don't seem to prefer any intervention to obtain that goal and that's fine.
Sometimes things do subside on their own, and we let them be. Unfortunately quite often they spiral out of control and if we leave it too long we end up with a horrible mess because there's all kinds of good content interleaved with personal attacks. People often post sensible comments but also quote a personal attack in their message, so the otherwise good comment gets the boot.
For politically-charged threads, I've sometimes taken the approach of allowing the discussion but immediately snipping anything approaching a personal attack. We've actually managed to have some good politically-oriented discussions that way... but it requires constant attention and I can't always do that. Something about a day job...
dirkhh
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OK, summary time:
The moderators are unpaid and underthanked.
It's hard, it's a judgment call, every single time. Is this post over the line? Is that post over the line?
Add to that people reporting posts (sometimes for good reasons, sometimes for bad reasons) and the overarching desire to keep things civil here.
I volunteered to help doug with administration. I'd never dream of volunteering to moderate. That's a sh..... wait, don't want to get banned.... tough job and I don't think I'm even keeled enough for it.
As much as they have pi..... annoyed me in the past with forcing me to clean up my language (and all I wrote about was a cluster f....renzy). Once my anger retreats I recognize that this is hard. Much much harder than it looks from the outside.
So after the last few posts here I went over to snippiness and looked. Boy, I'm glad I don't have to make the call of which posts stay and which posts go.
So... deep breath... think about older wiser you... try not to kick the yoga teacher in his... unmentionables (as I always want to) and just let this go.
I much prefer this forum to the other forums I occasional visit.
(which reminds me - I have been censored for my foul language here, but never got sent to snippiness... I feel like I'm missing out...)
The moderators are unpaid and underthanked.
It's hard, it's a judgment call, every single time. Is this post over the line? Is that post over the line?
Add to that people reporting posts (sometimes for good reasons, sometimes for bad reasons) and the overarching desire to keep things civil here.
I volunteered to help doug with administration. I'd never dream of volunteering to moderate. That's a sh..... wait, don't want to get banned.... tough job and I don't think I'm even keeled enough for it.
As much as they have pi..... annoyed me in the past with forcing me to clean up my language (and all I wrote about was a cluster f....renzy). Once my anger retreats I recognize that this is hard. Much much harder than it looks from the outside.
So after the last few posts here I went over to snippiness and looked. Boy, I'm glad I don't have to make the call of which posts stay and which posts go.
So... deep breath... think about older wiser you... try not to kick the yoga teacher in his... unmentionables (as I always want to) and just let this go.
I much prefer this forum to the other forums I occasional visit.
(which reminds me - I have been censored for my foul language here, but never got sent to snippiness... I feel like I'm missing out...)
dirkhh
Middle-aged Member
I'm about to test for my second dan in Tae Kwon Do... does that count?Try Tae Kwon Leap. I hear that's effective.
I don't think it rises to the level of Tae Kwon Leap. Ed Gruberman found out the hard way. (You'll have to search it and listen to it...)
dirkhh
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TKD Demos - YouTube -- that would be my teacher.
There is a small chance (tiny, really) that this is no longer entirely on topic.
Any moderators around ?
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I'm usually just a lurker, but occasionally post if I think something is worthwhile. This is one of those times.
I only realized the edit function is gone when I tried to edit one of my newer posts. Interestingly, I lost the power to edit wiki's such as this one a long time ago.
Upon learning this new rule for editing, I most likely won't be posting much in the future (although I know it's not much of a contribution like more knowledgeable members of this forum). My point is that there are probably quite a bit of members just like me (self-moderating) who contribute only every now and then. May not be much, but collectively can be. There's probably lots of grammatical errors in this post, but I probably won't be able to correct it at a later date.
It's sad that this function to self-correct is gone.
***Update***
I realized I haven't said Thank You! lately for the great job the moderators have been doing - Thank You!
I only realized the edit function is gone when I tried to edit one of my newer posts. Interestingly, I lost the power to edit wiki's such as this one a long time ago.
Upon learning this new rule for editing, I most likely won't be posting much in the future (although I know it's not much of a contribution like more knowledgeable members of this forum). My point is that there are probably quite a bit of members just like me (self-moderating) who contribute only every now and then. May not be much, but collectively can be. There's probably lots of grammatical errors in this post, but I probably won't be able to correct it at a later date.
It's sad that this function to self-correct is gone.
***Update***
I realized I haven't said Thank You! lately for the great job the moderators have been doing - Thank You!
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24 hours is more than enough time to notice and correct grammatical errors. Deciding never to post again because you can't edit what you say after a day seems a little odd, but whatever floats your boat.
Having witnessed 2 instances recently, one where a poster went back and replaced their posts with nonsense and another where a poster tried to wipe their history but couldn't because of this rule, I'm now firmly in the "this is the right thing" camp.
Having witnessed 2 instances recently, one where a poster went back and replaced their posts with nonsense and another where a poster tried to wipe their history but couldn't because of this rule, I'm now firmly in the "this is the right thing" camp.
There is. It's the same
icon as in normal threads. It might not show up on the wiki article but does on posts in the discussion.
Are you trying to change the title of the wiki article? It takes a mod to do that.
Are you trying to change the title of the wiki article? It takes a mod to do that.
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