Moderator notes/reminders:
1. There are a few topics that are banned in this "catchall" thread.
(a) talking about putting people on the ignore list. Go ahead and take the action, but don't talk about it. We consider it a personal attack.
(b) making other personal attacks on members
(c) ... particularly attacks on Electrek, or Fred Lambert personally. He is a member here too, but the real reason is it gets people worked up.
(d) perpetual motion machines, solar cells on cars, politics, numerous others. You'll find out if you hit one.
2. There's a separate thread for FUDdish articles. Please use it, although sometimes it is topical/relevant enough to post here. But if you're going to post a link to such an article on Bloomberg (because of their stupid title mangling) you SHALL* also post at least the title. For other FUDdy sources (including but not limited to Electrek, Sleazing Alpha, Business Insider, Wall St. Journal) remember that there are many readers who won't want to follow the link, so you SHOULD post a sentence or two about what the article is about, what's wrong with it, or whatever, so that people don't have to follow the link.
3. Please respect the difference between personal speech (which we try to honor even if we disagree) and racist/sexist/blahblah speech. Case in point: "I wish we could get rid of the old white guys in power" is an opinion, even if you don't like it. "Old white guys are idiots" would be ageist and sexist.
4. Sometimes people make unsubstantiated claims. Sometimes the facts are common knowledge or should have been available in previous postings; great. But don't make statements out of the blue without providing justification, it makes us think that you might be a troll. Also don't make postings just saying "Link?" or "Reference?" -- they're worthless, and trolls also use such responses to engage others in endless conversations. Sometimes you might simply make a mistake. Fine, correct it if you can, or message the moderators if it's too late for you to fix, own up. But an intentional false statement (as judged by moderators, whose decisions are final) is pretty much a guarantee of a temporary ban.
5. We have recently seen that media and analysts do pick up stuff written here. Often they quote it out of context, and this can be especially dangerous if the content was supposed to be a joke or sarcasm, but maybe it wasn't obvious enough. Please make it obvious with "/S" or smileys or whatever. This also helps people for whom English is a second language, or ones with no sense of humor .
Please try to keep in mind that your moderators are all volunteers, we are all bound by the TMC terms and conditions and some that are specific to moderation. We try to keep up but sometimes it's just impossible. When the volume is high, deleting stuff is pretty much all we can cope with.
* RFC 2119 - Key words for use in RFCs to Indicate Requirement Lev (RFC2119) defines some of the terms mentioned above.
--ggr.
PS: if you want to discuss any of this, I will be creating a separate thread and will update this post with a link. DO NOT reply in the main thread.
1. There are a few topics that are banned in this "catchall" thread.
(a) talking about putting people on the ignore list. Go ahead and take the action, but don't talk about it. We consider it a personal attack.
(b) making other personal attacks on members
(c) ... particularly attacks on Electrek, or Fred Lambert personally. He is a member here too, but the real reason is it gets people worked up.
(d) perpetual motion machines, solar cells on cars, politics, numerous others. You'll find out if you hit one.
2. There's a separate thread for FUDdish articles. Please use it, although sometimes it is topical/relevant enough to post here. But if you're going to post a link to such an article on Bloomberg (because of their stupid title mangling) you SHALL* also post at least the title. For other FUDdy sources (including but not limited to Electrek, Sleazing Alpha, Business Insider, Wall St. Journal) remember that there are many readers who won't want to follow the link, so you SHOULD post a sentence or two about what the article is about, what's wrong with it, or whatever, so that people don't have to follow the link.
3. Please respect the difference between personal speech (which we try to honor even if we disagree) and racist/sexist/blahblah speech. Case in point: "I wish we could get rid of the old white guys in power" is an opinion, even if you don't like it. "Old white guys are idiots" would be ageist and sexist.
4. Sometimes people make unsubstantiated claims. Sometimes the facts are common knowledge or should have been available in previous postings; great. But don't make statements out of the blue without providing justification, it makes us think that you might be a troll. Also don't make postings just saying "Link?" or "Reference?" -- they're worthless, and trolls also use such responses to engage others in endless conversations. Sometimes you might simply make a mistake. Fine, correct it if you can, or message the moderators if it's too late for you to fix, own up. But an intentional false statement (as judged by moderators, whose decisions are final) is pretty much a guarantee of a temporary ban.
5. We have recently seen that media and analysts do pick up stuff written here. Often they quote it out of context, and this can be especially dangerous if the content was supposed to be a joke or sarcasm, but maybe it wasn't obvious enough. Please make it obvious with "/S" or smileys or whatever. This also helps people for whom English is a second language, or ones with no sense of humor .
Please try to keep in mind that your moderators are all volunteers, we are all bound by the TMC terms and conditions and some that are specific to moderation. We try to keep up but sometimes it's just impossible. When the volume is high, deleting stuff is pretty much all we can cope with.
* RFC 2119 - Key words for use in RFCs to Indicate Requirement Lev (RFC2119) defines some of the terms mentioned above.
--ggr.
PS: if you want to discuss any of this, I will be creating a separate thread and will update this post with a link. DO NOT reply in the main thread.