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About to pull the trigger, but need some quick advice, 85 or P85?

Discussion in 'Model S: Ordering, Production, Delivery' started by kelver777, Jun 9, 2017.

  1. kelver777

    kelver777 Member

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    I'm looking at two different Model S cars on the CPO site.

    One is a 85, the other is a P85

    Both are the same year, about the same miles,the 85 has twin charge, while the P85 has the carbon fiber spoiler, but other than that it is the same options.

    The P85 is $2,000 more than the 85.

    I'm sure my insurance would be higher on the P85, but is upgrading to a P85 worth the extra $2,000?

    Just looking for opinions.

    Thanks
     
  2. Dansblum

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    For 2K more, I'd take the P. Check out the pricing on something new and the differential from a 100D to a P100D. A LOT more than 2K.
     
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  3. xveys

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    Difference in price used to be 10K.

    The S85 is already very fast, but the P is even faster. Both are good options. I would also pick the P, unless insurance cost is really higher and a potential dealbreaker (don't know about this in the US).

    Good luck choosing!
     
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  4. kelver777

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    That is an interesting way to look at it.

    BTW found out my insurance would go up $1 a month.... lol
     
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  5. 365gtb4

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    My experience with the P cars is they ride harder. I'm glad I bought the non-performance cars due to the difference in range and ride.
     
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  6. Piney999

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    Also don't forget that "P" cars are notoriously hard on tires. It is something you will at least need to budget for. You will be happy either way!
     
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    I have a signature P85. I've driven 85's and I'm very happy with my choice. The Carbon Fibre makes the car look amazing with the Red Calipers.
     
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    I went for the P when I had the same choice (only my price differential was $5k). Totally worth it. My P does not have a stiffer ride than a regular 85 as I have had several as loaners. I think the tires issue mentioned above is for the 21" or the staggered setup that was on the plus cars. Mine has 19"s.

    Your insurance will be higher on the P. I would take the VINs of the 2 cars and gets quotes based on those. I was running quotes for both an 85 and my P85 and the P85 did raise the rates vs the 85.
     
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  9. dhrivnak

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    Unless you just want bragging rights, the standard 85 is faster than most cars. It will also eat tires faster. But $2000 is not much of a premium so it depends on what you want.
     
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    For $2k I'd go with the P. If anything you'll be able to ask a little more when it's time to sell or trade in.

    P85 and S85 are identical in every way except for the drive motor and inverter. You'll notice no difference in handling between the two unless using the same wheel/tire combo.

    My own observation is that a S85 with 21s uses less wh/mi (energy) than a P85 with 21s, so I've seen slightly more range out of the S85 loaners I've had compared to my P85+.
     
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    With such a small price difference, I would personally go with the P. All good points re. cost of tires, range and ride comfort though.
     
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  12. SM18

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    Go with the P85! Same range, more power. You can also add the twin charger to the P85 later. And for those mentioning the stiffer ride, I think that was only for the P85+. Either way, total no-brainer: P85
     
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  13. CalBlue 85D

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    I really like the dual chargers on my 85, so that would be a bigger factor for my preference between the two. I also agree that you should shop the insurance rates, there are a lot of factors that could make a big difference for an individual owner between a P and a regular model.
     
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    Piney999, that's not accurate. The P85+ is hard on tires mostly because of the altered suspension and the staggered wheels.

    For that matter, 21's are harder on tires than 19's.
     
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    Akikiki A'-Lo-HA ! y'all

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    And Dual chargers is no help unless the place you charge has a 100 amp circuit.
    Dual chargers do not use or help with Superchargers.
     
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    Buy anything before it sells out!
     
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    This is not true.
    You're thinking of the P85+
     
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    #18 Olle, Jun 9, 2017
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    range is same, suspension is same, unless you get a p85+ which is harder

    For $2000 difference, the P85 is a no brainer! Twin chargers used to be important 4 years ago before there were many superchargers. Nowadays its debatable if you want to carry the weight that extra charger for that rare occasion when it makes a difference
     
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    I would opt for the P. $2k is a small price to pay for the grin that comes from punching the accelerator. I'm pretty sure the P85 is 0-60 at 4.2, same as my 100D. That is fast....and I'd miss it at this point if it was a half second slower.
     
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  20. timvracer

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    Get the P!! I wanted a P model pretty bad, but also wanted a new car. The price difference between a 100d, and a P100d is now about $45,000!! So you are getting the insane mode 0-60 in 3.2s for only 2k. That is awesome.

    4.2 is quick, but I'd never say "quick enough" - never met quick enough.. yet.
     
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