About to purchase 2019 M3 AP Question

[Mchesnoff]

Hi everyone,

I might be purchasing a model 3 today. its a 2019 AWD LR made in January of 2019. Im assuming its HW2.5.

On the screen, it shows Navigate on Autopilot Beta and Summon Beta. Does this mean the previous owner purchased the FSD capabilities for the car?

Thanks for your guidance and excited to join the family!

 

[Zaxxon]

It means Enhanced autopilot or reg autopilot plus FSD.

 

[Mchesnoff]

Yes.

Thank you,

Also is there any difference in range from this Jan 2019 version to the Apr 2019 version?

 

[Zaxxon]

Thank you,

Also is there any difference in range from this Jan 2019 version to the Apr 2019 version?

See my edit above. It can mean either of the things I listed. Really you should have the seller show you the car's configuration from their Tesla account. That will show the specific options on the car.

 

[Zaxxon]

And no, the AWD LR should be the same rated range from Jan to April build.

 

[hari-bhari]

Don't buy the car without seeing the config sheet from the seller. I think if you have navigate on autopilot, you have at least EAP or FSD. Even EAP to FSD is worth around $4k I believe.

 

[Mchesnoff]

Don't buy the car without seeing the config sheet from the seller. I think if you have navigate on autopilot, you have at least EAP or FSD. Even EAP to FSD is worth around $4k I believe.

Thank you both. Yeah, i called them about the price and they are listing it at $55k. I'm sure it had FSD for that price.

 

[ElectricIAC]

Thank you both. Yeah, i called them about the price and they are listing it at $55k. I'm sure it had FSD for that price.

Seems high even it’s just been sitting for a year after being delivered. You can get new for that practically.

 

[ZappCatt]

Seems high even it’s just been sitting for a year after being delivered. You can get new for that practically.

LOL,yeah. A Brand new 2020 model LR AWD(basic) would be $48,990(plus the $1,200 destination and taxes, etc) without FSD. Even with FSD that only goes up to $55,990.

If purchased in Jan 2019, they got the $3,750 Fed rebate, and if in CA, they got $2,500....so they are trying to MAKE money on the car after 2 years of owning it. As Elon said, it is an Appreciating Asset!

That would be a definite hard no from me. I would probably go for a Stealth for $51ish and pass on FSD(can always add it in the future if they get improvements.

While the Fed rebate is gone, you would still be eligible for the $2,000 CA rebate(and potential energy company rebates)

 

[Mchesnoff]

LOL,yeah. A Brand new 2020 model LR AWD(basic) would be $48,990(plus the $1,200 destination and taxes, etc) without FSD. Even with FSD that only goes up to $55,990.

If purchased in Jan 2019, they got the $3,750 Fed rebate, and if in CA, they got $2,500....so they are trying to MAKE money on the car after 2 years of owning it. As Elon said, it is an Appreciating Asset!

That would be a definite hard no from me. I would probably go for a Stealth for $51ish and pass on FSD(can always add it in the future if they get improvements.

While the Fed rebate is gone, you would still be eligible for the $2,000 CA rebate(and potential energy company rebates)

Oh I explained that to them on the phone that I could get a brand new 2020 for that and they had no explanation other than that’s what the general manager set it at. These dealerships have no idea what they are even selling.

 

[Mchesnoff]

LOL,yeah. A Brand new 2020 model LR AWD(basic) would be $48,990(plus the $1,200 destination and taxes, etc) without FSD. Even with FSD that only goes up to $55,990.

If purchased in Jan 2019, they got the $3,750 Fed rebate, and if in CA, they got $2,500....so they are trying to MAKE money on the car after 2 years of owning it. As Elon said, it is an Appreciating Asset!

That would be a definite hard no from me. I would probably go for a Stealth for $51ish and pass on FSD(can always add it in the future if they get improvements.

While the Fed rebate is gone, you would still be eligible for the $2,000 CA rebate(and potential energy company rebates)

Also, how could you tell if it was a stealth or not? Is it just the red line under dual motor on the screen without the spoiler and calipers?

 

[ElectricIAC]

Oh I explained that to them on the phone that I could get a brand new 2020 for that and they had no explanation other than that’s what the general manager set it at. These dealerships have no idea what they are even selling.

The sad thing is, someone might just buy it for that or negotiate down to 52K and think they’ve won.. I will say this: I would almost pay a $1,000 premium on a new car or $500 on used just to not deal with Tesla sales as in my experience (and apparently many others) it’s nothing short of amateur night.

That’s not to say there isn’t great sales advisors out there who will move earth and water for you to the best of their ability but almost anyone who’s been through the process and has a decent point of reference with other high end brands will or should agree that the system is fundamentally dysfunctional.

 

[Ivan Abundance]

I nosed around quite a while for a used 3.

I wound up with new. Glad I did, although I really don't have much in the way of reservations about a used one. I'm just a people, and we all know how wacky those are.

 

[dmurphy]

has a decent point of reference with other high end brands will or should agree that the system is fundamentally dysfunctional.

My last few vehicles have been Cadillacs, all of which cost significantly more than my Model 3.

That said - I wouldn’t call the Tesla delivery process flawed; in fact, my experience was perfect. I ordered online; received all the paperwork ahead of time, and picked up a detailed, fully charged, flawless vehicle. The sales advisor spent over an hour going through the entire vehicle with us, answering questions etc.

Smoothest delivery I’ve ever had. No F&I guy pimping protection plans, no “Let me run that by my manager” nonsense ... just an easy deal.

The Cadillac experience was fine too - but I’d take the Tesla one any day of the week.