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Accepted Delivery of MYP 22' this weekend. Your thoughts on the fit and finish?

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Complete nonsense. You are, indeed, a fanboi if you think Tesla's issues are no worse than other manufacturers and are publicized just because people "want it to fail"...lol. And in my case, hard to argue all the people complaining about their vehicles on here want Tesla to fail after purchasing $60K Model Y's :rolleyes:

It's also kind of funny that you hold this opinion despite numerous reputable car review magazines and sites specifically talking about the Tesla production quality and reliability issues. Is it your opinion these outlets are all just fabricating these reviews? I mean...seriously?

The list of issues on my "end of production quarter" Model Y would make your head spin (read below if you care).

The worst thing I ever experienced with any of the other six car purchases in my life so far was my Audi A4, which had a scratch in a window.

Read if you care: In addition to the aforementioned A-pillar trim disconnected from the pillar and partially hanging into the car (which I cannot imagine ANY other maker allowing me to even see, much less give me the car in that condition), there are the standard legion of issues: The crooked panels, massive gaps (and even a paint defect) on all the exterior panels and plastic runners were laughable and immediately obvious. The wheel-well under the front passenger side quarter panel was literally put on in the wrong order, slapped over parts it was supposed to be under and not secured in place, the passenger interior door trim connectors weren't secure, so all the parts inside the door were shaking, squeaking, popping, and vibrating at a number of different speeds. The weather seals around all the doors were put on in a totally random series of over/under the metal and plastic pieces they were supposed to fit under, which messed with the weatherproofing, the driver seat and the charging cover were both cut by someone's x-acto knife at the factory when they were un-packaging them, and both had to be replaced, etc. etc.
I also got my MYP on 3/30 which is the last day of the first quarter delivery. I have non of those issues that you mentioned. When I had $60k Audi Q5, it had panel misalignment (not as many as you mentioned), entire side door panels had deep scratches (found out a day after the pick up form the dealer), B Pillar rattled right next to your ear constantly that Audi could not fix, Sunroof subframe had to be replaced along with the headliners when the car had 100 miles on it, both front headlights had severe condensation that water was pooling at the bottom of the headlights (inside), etc, passenger side side mirror tilt down stopped working, etc.
Panel and paint issues are easy fix, but the focus of Tesla is mass production first and fine tune the details now. If the company cannot make good profit, they cannot improve for R&D and/or QA, so eventually Tesla will catch up the the "luxury" standard soon meaning 2-4 years. Pretty much all legacy ICE auto makers have not so easily fixable issues, which is the engine design. All have some kind of flaws and issues with their engines that cannot be fixed without major redesign which also has limitation, especially for high output performance engines.
 
sorry dude, I'm not a fanboi. I could care less. I've bought enough cars in my day, to know that this is an OCD behavior. Yes it's not perfect, but unless you are buying an early 90's Lexus, nothing is. Every manufacturer has their issues, Tesla's are just more publicized because more people want it to fail. If you don't like it, don't accept delivery or just ask the delivery manager to fix it for you. It's simple.
Tesla's issues aren't more publicized because they want it to fail..people have legitimate gripes about the quality when it arrives. It is something they're not used to when buying a car because rarely are they this far off. And lets be honest, people BUYING the car don't want Tesla to fail, that's silly.

With Tesla, there is more of this DevOps approach and they'll fix it later...which many people find pretty poor. Some people are buying them despite these issues..but either way, if Tesla wants to take this approach and people accept it, that's fine..but at the same time, Tesla needs to fix these issues when customers raise them. I think that is a fair to both sides. If Tesla ends up taking the approach that these issues are "within spec" and don't end up fixing them, I think a some customers will re-evaluate what they think about buying one. Not to mention a few years ago they didn't have the competition they have now...

The part I don't understand is people are drinking the Kool Aid so hard that they give Tesla an excuse for everything as if they can do no wrong...that they give Tesla a pass despite obvious issues w/ the car that wouldn't be expected at any level of car...and why?
 
Tesla's issues aren't more publicized because they want it to fail..people have legitimate gripes about the quality when it arrives. It is something they're not used to when buying a car because rarely are they this far off. And lets be honest, people BUYING the car don't want Tesla to fail, that's silly.

With Tesla, there is more of this DevOps approach and they'll fix it later...which many people find pretty poor. Some people are buying them despite these issues..but either way, if Tesla wants to take this approach and people accept it, that's fine..but at the same time, Tesla needs to fix these issues when customers raise them. I think that is a fair to both sides. If Tesla ends up taking the approach that these issues are "within spec" and don't end up fixing them, I think a some customers will re-evaluate what they think about buying one. Not to mention a few years ago they didn't have the competition they have now...

The part I don't understand is people are drinking the Kool Aid so hard that they give Tesla an excuse for everything as if they can do no wrong...that they give Tesla a pass despite obvious issues w/ the car that wouldn't be expected at any level of car...and why?
I agree. I can be a Tesla fanboy, but if Tesla does not or will not improve, my money will not stay with Tesla.
 
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I've had mine for a month now and its in service for the 2nd time. This time they claim its body shop for paint imperfections and cracks. I have the same taillight gaps on the passenger side. I called it all out and went through it (AGAIN) with the service advisor. They said the car would be there 2+ weeks for the body shop.

I honestly wish they just had better QA process at the factory before the care even left to migrate this. 2 DAYS worth of lost time driving there and back, vise versa.
 
Hi guys, just got my new MYP 22', love the car. Drives like a beast in heat. Happy to join the tesla family.

Just wanted to hear your thoughts on the fit and finish and if any of it deems having to be taken in for service? Alignments, scratches, gaps and interior trims.

My main concern is bringing in the car and the car comes back worse than before after serviced. Considering taking it to Mt. Kisco. NY tesla service center (nearest me).

Anyone had any services completed at this site and had any issues/concerns?

Thanks.
Congratulations; I raised similar questions when I picked my MYP here in So Cal. The gap difference from one side to the other; They said they are within their specs 😲😬 and if I wanted to fix them and make them equal I have to pay to have it done🤦🏻‍♂️ So I accepted it the way it was 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
I've had mine for a month now and its in service for the 2nd time. This time they claim its body shop for paint imperfections and cracks. I have the same taillight gaps on the passenger side. I called it all out and went through it (AGAIN) with the service advisor. They said the car would be there 2+ weeks for the body shop.

I honestly wish they just had better QA process at the factory before the care even left to migrate this. 2 DAYS worth of lost time driving there and back, vise versa.
Sorry to hear about your experience. Hopefully they resolve the issues with the utmost care and urgency.
 
Congratulations; I raised similar questions when I picked my MYP here in So Cal. The gap difference from one side to the other; They said they are within their specs 😲😬 and if I wanted to fix them and make them equal I have to pay to have it done🤦🏻‍♂️ So I accepted it the way it was 🤷🏻‍♂️
Ouch, seems like that service center was being unreasonable. A lot of the delivery specialists are temp employees. They may lack the knowledge and expetise of a service technician. Hopefully theres another service center that would be more accomdating if you decide to pursue it further.

My delivery specialist advised me that the service center I picked up my car from won't be able to address the concerns. I didn't bother asking him for clarification.
 
Sorry to hear about your experience. Hopefully they resolve the issues with the utmost care and urgency.
I share the same concern about the paint matching when it comes back, but i couldn't accept a 1 month old vehicle having cracking in the seams and globs of paint. And a very obvious misalignment in the rear lift gate. Knowing tesla they will do about 50% of the items.
 
The 3 and Y are not luxury cars, more like upper midrange. In the Tesla line up they starters.

That said I don't many issues. The white gooey stuff on the trim is the glue leftover from the shipping wrap. Some ispropyl will remove it. There's a pic of what looks like a smudge or scratch, can't really tell what is shown and you didn't caption what we're looking at. I suggest washing the car to figure out if that a smudge or scratch.
Right, the only luxury part is the price.
 
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I share the same concern about the paint matching when it comes back, but i couldn't accept a 1 month old vehicle having cracking in the seams and globs of paint. And a very obvious misalignment in the rear lift gate. Knowing tesla they will do about 50% of the items.
They replaced my red rear bumper which was a gross mismatch. They wanted to replace the front bumper too, but I wouldn't let them touch it.
And this was on a BLACK CAR.......just kidding.
 
Thanks for your inputs, I do agree these minor alignments are not too severe and I may decide to not go have it serviced. Could you guys confirm if the driver and passenger door arm rests is normal? Seems to be slightly peeking out if you look from the outside.
I know you don't mean armrests, but based on your photos I see what you're referring to. My '21 M3 has the same thing, its normal. It's almost as if the engineers thought that part would be covered by the door when looking from the outside but were off. It used to drive me crazy because I notice it every time I look at that area from the outside. It looks sloppy to me, but I've learned to accept it.
 
Complete nonsense. You are, indeed, a fanboi if you think Tesla's issues are no worse than other manufacturers and are publicized just because people "want it to fail"...lol. And in my case, hard to argue all the people complaining about their vehicles on here want Tesla to fail after purchasing $60K Model Y's :rolleyes:

It's also kind of funny that you hold this opinion despite numerous reputable car review magazines and sites specifically talking about the Tesla production quality and reliability issues. Is it your opinion these outlets are all just fabricating these reviews? I mean...seriously?

The list of issues on my "end of production quarter" Model Y would make your head spin (read below if you care).

The worst thing I ever experienced with any of the other six car purchases in my life so far was my Audi A4, which had a scratch in a window.

Read if you care: In addition to the aforementioned A-pillar trim disconnected from the pillar and partially hanging into the car (which I cannot imagine ANY other maker allowing me to even see, much less give me the car in that condition), there are the standard legion of issues: The crooked panels, massive gaps (and even a paint defect) on all the exterior panels and plastic runners were laughable and immediately obvious. The wheel-well under the front passenger side quarter panel was literally put on in the wrong order, slapped over parts it was supposed to be under and not secured in place, the passenger interior door trim connectors weren't secure, so all the parts inside the door were shaking, squeaking, popping, and vibrating at a number of different speeds. The weather seals around all the doors were put on in a totally random series of over/under the metal and plastic pieces they were supposed to fit under, which messed with the weatherproofing, the driver seat and the charging cover were both cut by someone's x-acto knife at the factory when they were un-packaging them, and both had to be replaced, etc. etc.
Short of the mismatched red rear bumper which they replaced within a week, I didn't have any gaps like that on my Red 2021 MY. They must be getting worse instead of better. Seeing your pix, it looks like it was produced in the tent in Fremont on a Friday afternoon. Sorry man. I am not looking forward to the arrival of my MYP in May. If it looks like that, I'll refuse to accept it and wait. "It meets our specifications." "BS, It doesn't meet MY specifications." Damn right they need to fix it. Charge it to your AMEX and stop payment the next day.

The IONIQ 5, I just bought and sold was about $20,000 less than my inbound MYP and SURPRISE, not a panel gap on it, the paint and interior were perfect and the vehicle is as quiet as can be. (Oh, they did leave one piece of delivery tape on the inside back pillar - Wow). The only way we are going to get TESLA to change their shoddy behavior is to make them do it and do it and do it until it's done right. Hopefully the bean counters will look at how much it is costing per unit to fix what the factory messed up. I am fortunate to have not had panel gaps on any of the six Teslas I have owned. I don't get it. Do they have a panel gap day once a week or do the bots need tweaking every so often. Wait until we get Tesla's home robot, who you ask to take out the trash and it's eye pops out and it trashes the dog!!
 
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I know you don't mean armrests, but based on your photos I see what you're referring to. My '21 M3 has the same thing, its normal. It's almost as if the engineers thought that part would be covered by the door when looking from the outside but were off. It used to drive me crazy because I notice it every time I look at that area from the outside. It looks sloppy to me, but I've learned to accept it.
Thanks for your input. Lol, I guess I'm the only one who puts my arm there when I drive. Its actually a pretty comfortable spot. I'll try to avoid looking at it from now on. Hehe.
 

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Short of the mismatched red rear bumper which they replaced within a week, I didn't have any gaps like that on my Red 2021 MY. They must be getting worse instead of better. Seeing your pix, it looks like it was produced in the tent in Fremont on a Friday afternoon. Sorry man. I am not looking forward to the arrival of my MYP in May. If it looks like that, I'll refuse to accept it and wait. "It meets our specifications." "BS, It doesn't meet MY specifications." Damn right they need to fix it. Charge it to your AMEX and stop payment the next day.

The IONIQ 5, I just bought and sold was about $20,000 less than my inbound MYP and SURPRISE, not a panel gap on it, the paint and interior were perfect and the vehicle is as quiet as can be. (Oh, they did leave one piece of delivery tape on the inside back pillar - Wow). The only way we are going to get TESLA to change their shoddy behavior is to make them do it and do it and do it until it's done right. Hopefully the bean counters will look at how much it is costing per unit to fix what the factory messed up. I am fortunate to have not had panel gaps on any of the six Teslas I have owned. I don't get it. Do they have a panel gap day once a week or do the bots need tweaking every so often. Wait until we get Tesla's home robot, who you ask to take out the trash and it's eye pops out and it trashes the dog!!
Thanks for sharing your experience and I hope your new MY delivery goes well. *fingers crossed*

I'm okay with all their flaws so long as their service centers are dependable. If their service technicians are competent and can actually address the issues without damaging the cars any further, I can look the other way on minor issues. From the online reviews on the service centers near me. I'm frightened to bring it in unless absolutely necessary.

I hated getting nickel and dimed at the legacy auto dealerships whenever I brought in my cars for service/repairs. At least with Tesla, I hope the experience will be better.
 
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Could care less or couldn’t care less?

Could care less means that you still have some care to give. Couldn’t care less means you’ve bottomed out on caring with nothing left. 😉
The fact that you took the time to educate him on this one (so many get this wrong), is so petty.

And SOOO something I would do. LOL

That and when people say "he did a full 360 and turned his life around"

NO HE DIDNT. ITS 180. 360 MEANS HE DID WRONG, SAW HOW TO DO IT RIGHT, THEN WENT AROUND AND DID IT WRONG AGAIN.
 
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did you pay as much attention to any other car you bought?
I’ve only owned Toyotas and Hondas for 35 years, and there was never any need to do that. I still own two Hondas - perfect panels all around. I own two Teslas - panel fit is a mess on both. Teslas have sloppy manufacturing and production, and I’ve taken my MY in for service eight times in the past two years. But I’m a believer in EVs, and the supercharger network and the autopilot make up for the crappy production for me.
 
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The fact that you took the time to educate him on this one (so many get this wrong), is so petty.

And SOOO something I would do. LOL

That and when people say "he did a full 360 and turned his life around"

NO HE DIDNT. ITS 180. 360 MEANS HE DID WRONG, SAW HOW TO DO IT RIGHT, THEN WENT AROUND AND DID IT WRONG AGAIN.
Hey, I did a 360 in my car once and it turned my life around!

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Right, the only luxury part is the price.
Quite right.. this is a common misconception that price = luxury or not. In this case, price is buying into an "early adopter" vehicle that is constantly undergoing changes. You are buying it for the tech.. not the luxury. If you want the luxury and the high price, shop somewhere else. But you wont get the tech that Tesla has made famous. And you certainly wont get the engineering that you dont see unless you go looking for it. This is not a repackaged ICE design.. it's a now relatively newer design for a car. I say that because the model 3 is getting iong in the tooth from a design POV but still holds up pretty well. they put their effort in the tech side from better motors, better construction techniques, better batteries and so on. Thats what you are paying for.
People complain bitterly about the service.. yeah.. with good justification but I've had just as shitty service from Audi, Porsche, Toyota and domestics like Chrysler. Add in the EV part, and every vendor I have dealt with has issues. Mostly just trying to get qualified people to work on the cars. When I see Chevy running help wanted ads for an Electronics Technician specifically for Corvettes.. that shows the size of the issue. Not a mechanic.. an ET and specifically for a specific car. Talk about a unicorn. I have a humble Hybrid Pacifica van along with the Tesla. And Chrysler is utterly useless on fixing it . They may know ICE but they clueless about electrics. They take the car in and then call home to get a remote session with an "engineer'. At least the telsa techs I've worked with all had a clue about what they were working on. And many are enthusiasts so they are very interested in the tech/how it works and how to fix it.
 
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Hi guys, just got my new MYP 22', love the car. Drives like a beast in heat. Happy to join the tesla family.

Just wanted to hear your thoughts on the fit and finish and if any of it deems having to be taken in for service? Alignments, scratches, gaps and interior trims.

My main concern is bringing in the car and the car comes back worse than before after serviced. Considering taking it to Mt. Kisco. NY tesla service center (nearest me).

Anyone had any services completed at this site and had any issues/concerns?

Thanks.
Looks like other people have already addressed most of your concerns, but one thing I'll add is about your trunk misalignment. In addition to the gaps possibly being uneven on the left and right sides, it also seems to be indented/sunken in. I had the same issue with my MYP at delivery. They'll likely have to replace the trunk hinges, but I would absolutely make a service appointment. In general, bring as much as you can to their attention with pictures you've taken.

In case nobody has told you yet, when you make a service request, be prepared to wait for your appointment. I'm not sure how it is in NY, but here in FL, all appointments are 3-4 weeks out. Then, sometimes as soon as one day before your appointment, they can notify you that a part still isn't in stock so they'll reschedule your appointment to...another 3-4 weeks out.