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Adding a charger at family destination?

Discussion in 'Model S: Battery & Charging' started by tliving, Sep 1, 2015.

  1. tliving

    tliving Member

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    Hi folks, I haven't seen this discussed in my travels. I visit my parents a lot, especially with recent health issues. I currently use a NEMA 14-30 and a 30' Camco extension cord and have to go through gyrations each time to unplug the dryer, route things through the window, roll up the heavy cord etc. Its working fine and has for years but its a pain. Im thinking about paying for them to get a charger at their place. They have a farm and get a lot of visitors. Whats the right kind of charger to put there (outside)?

    While I could do a basic NEMA 14-50, is that friendly to other EVs? Should I do some kind of third party J1172 type or what? The 14-30 is a little too slow for my usual needs so I'd like to put something faster in.

    Suggestions welcome. Thanks!
     
  2. davewill

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    A 14-50 is versatile...it can be used by a trailer or RV or used with tools and appliances. Unfortunately, only Teslas come with an EVSE that can be plugged into a 14-50, so if you want to be compatible with the most EVs, put in a J1772.
     
  3. tliving

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    Thats what I was wondering. How do you get a J1772?
     
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    SW2Fiddler Bannd Member

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    Wow, Amazon has a bunch of them. Just started typing "J17..." into the Search and it completed the term for me.
     
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    You buy it, and have an electrician install it. ClipperCreek has a good lineup.
     
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    Thanks, I was looking for a recommendation (with experience preferably). Other comments like "search amazon or google" aren't too helpful. I'll look at Clippercreek.
     
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    I think this one, the Clipper Creek HCS-60 is a terrific value:

    ClipperCreek | EV Charging Stations | EVSE | Electric Vehicle Charging

    It isn't much more than the 32A version and only a smidgen more than the HCS-50 ($899 versus $835). It is essentially future proofed at 11.5kW, which means that those with dual chargers can get some additional juice out of it (48A instead of 40A).
     
  9. Cottonwood

    Cottonwood Roadster#433, Model S#S37

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    I think that the ClipperCreek HCS-60 is the most cost effective J1772 that does not need a shutoff within sight (60 Amp or less breaker threshold). It is $899, is a standard J1772, will give a dual charger Tesla 48 Amps and a single charger Tesla 40 Amps, all good charging rates for the price.
     
  10. jrreno

    jrreno Nothin' left to do but smile, smile, smile

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    I would install the 14-50 and put that plug on whatever charger you choose. I did not notice if you have dual chargers. If you do and charge time is an issue you want to get a more powerful charger.
    I have a GE Wattstation which delivers 30 amps or about 20 mph to the Tesla through the J1772 adapter. It has a 6-50 plug and I happen to be one of the last people to buy the adapter before Tesla discontinued them. So I use the UMC at 40 amps to charge when I want a faster charge. I also use the Wattstation for my Leaf.
    I would think a more powerful Clipper Creek with a plug would be a versatile choice.
     
  11. tliving

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    Good thoughts. I looked that the clipper creek and its $800. A NEMA 14-50 may not be as friendly to other EV folks that may happen along but it would be a lot cheaper.
     
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    I have experience with the NEMA 14-50, and definitely recommend it.
    Hope that is helpful.
     
  13. jerry33

    jerry33 S85 - VIN:P05130 - 3/2/13

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    I got the HCS-40 from Clipper Creek. It's $565 and is primarily for the Leaf, but it's also a good backup for the Model S. I normally charge at 33 amps from the 14-50, so not a problem. (The 7 or 8 amps difference isn't going to make a whole lot of charging time difference--it's still overnight).
     
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    There are many J1772 EVSEs that can be plugged in instead of installed. If you installed a 14-50 outlet, you could easily just plug one of them in or use the UMC that comes with the car.
     

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