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Advertised vs Practical Range

gregincal

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Oct 26, 2012
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Based on the replies in this thread, that seems to be the logical route forward. If I don't buy the LR, I'd probably use our ICE 2nd vehicle for trips like this. with taxes/insurance, the price of the additional range would be over $10,000. That's tough to justify for 3-4 trips per year. If I owned the car for 8 years, that's $3-400 per trip.

Although that doesn't take into account the fact that after driving the Model 3 daily it will seem like torture to drive the ICE on a long trip. ;)

Seriously, we still take the ICE SUV when going to the mountains, but basically for every road trip I determine whether it's feasible in the Tesla, and if it is we definitely take it.
 

PaulJB

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Feb 2, 2016
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Although that doesn't take into account the fact that after driving the Model 3 daily it will seem like torture to drive the ICE on a long trip. ;)

Seriously, we still take the ICE SUV when going to the mountains, but basically for every road trip I determine whether it's feasible in the Tesla, and if it is we definitely take it.

I've been doing this debate in my head for a long time. On the one hand, I find it hard for me personally to justify the $9K for LR, when instead we could use a different vehicle for the two long trips we take or fly to those destinations (both >9hr drives along highways w/ Superchargers). However, I also know that once we use the Tesla in town daily, we will wish we could use it for all trips. I do believe that the bigger battery upgrade will hold its value well, but it will still depreciate and the value of the depreciation will probably pay for a decent amount of flights. Also, I've also considered getting the SR with the intent of replacing the other vehicle down the road with a bigger battery for longer trips. The debate goes on...
 

Aellinsar

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That assumes the battery upgrade has no value at the end of your ownership - and gives no credit for not carrying the old ICE car insurance, registration, and repairs.

Good points. I tend to drive cars until they die, so I'm not assigning much value at the end of ownership. I could be wrong, but I'd also expect this car to depreciate faster than a "normal" vehicle as I'd expect battery and other tech to improve quite a but int he next 5-10 years.

We'll have the ICE as our second vehicle anyway, so there isn't an increased cost for insurance, etc. on that vehicle. Perhaps when that car dies, longer range electric will be less expensive.
 

Saghost

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Oct 9, 2013
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Good points. I tend to drive cars until they die, so I'm not assigning much value at the end of ownership. I could be wrong, but I'd also expect this car to depreciate faster than a "normal" vehicle as I'd expect battery and other tech to improve quite a but int he next 5-10 years.

We'll have the ICE as our second vehicle anyway, so there isn't an increased cost for insurance, etc. on that vehicle. Perhaps when that car dies, longer range electric will be less expensive.

I'm not sure how it's going to play out. Yes, battery technology will get better over time, possibly to a significant extent within the life of the car.

However, Tesla is already getting to the point of "good enough" where the differences won't matter that much to the end user and the company will make the battery smaller and cheaper instead of longer ranged.

The other side of the coin is that a modern EV should be much more reliable than other cars, between the lack of vibration and thermal cycling and the isolation and relative ease of replacing components.

Also, Tesla keeps older cars current with firmware updates, and they're promising these cars will be self driving eventually.

So I could see depreciation going either direction compared to past cars - and given the tipping point we seem to be rapidly approaching, almost certainly better than an ICE bought this year.
 

SageBrush

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May 7, 2015
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This is an interesting thread to me. We will sometimes take a day trip to my mother-in-law's house, which is 190 miles round trip door-to-door. So, for current Tesla owners, would you attempt this on a short range model 3? It's a pretty straight-shot drive of 55-70 mph freeways, mostly 60mph.

It sounds based on anicolao's post that we'd probably want to supplement with some 120V charging while at their house.
I would install an L2 socket at the in-laws.
I paid about $200 for a 14-50 installation in my garage

End of drama;
Model 3 SR for the win!
 
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