Well... I got the "Button" and now we're all waiting for your class-action lawsuit(s).. 
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After what time has passed would you consider an FSD class action lawsuit?
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dbldwn02
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Well... I got the "Button" and now we're all waiting for your class-action lawsuit(s)..
I paid $3k, almost 5 years ago. Still no "button". Back to you Mark!
10k for a buttonWell... I got the "Button" and now we're all waiting for your class-action lawsuit(s)..
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So are you going to join in one of these class action lawsuits? You could launch one yourself ya know.
I paid $5k ~2 years ago and it appreciated to $10k. You snooze, you lose. I think I could have gotten it for $4k if I ordered a week or so earlier.
I paid $5k ~2 years ago and it appreciated to $10k. You snooze, you lose. I think I could have gotten it for $4k if I ordered a week or so earlier.
dbldwn02
Active Member
You think you're FSD is worth $10k? $500 on the used market, probably less.
sperkin
Active Member
I got it for $5,000 during the 2019 price drop. They charged Enhanced Autopilot for $5k but then gave away Autopilot for free so they upgraded my cars to FSD after I complained. I didn't want EAP and free Autopilot was all I needed. They couldn't do the refund so we settled on FSD. Still over paid in my opinion.
So your car can now cross from one part of the town to another completely autonomously? Wow.Well... I got the "Button" and now we're all waiting for your class-action lawsuit(s)..
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I would only consider suing if I thought Tesla was acting in bad faith. In my opinion, they are not.
FSD is crazy-hard to achieve, but I believe that Tesla is spending the time, effort, money required pull it off. I point to Lex Fridman's tweet about AI day where he said,
I personally don't care about the 10K I have spent for FSD. I went in knowing what I was getting, which is a front row seat to something that might be amazing and might also turn out to be a flop.
I do understand those who feel duped. That's just not me.
FSD is crazy-hard to achieve, but I believe that Tesla is spending the time, effort, money required pull it off. I point to Lex Fridman's tweet about AI day where he said,
I personally don't care about the 10K I have spent for FSD. I went in knowing what I was getting, which is a front row seat to something that might be amazing and might also turn out to be a flop.
I do understand those who feel duped. That's just not me.
CyberGus
Not Just a Member
If you’re driving from the back seat, you’re doing it wrong
I paid an additional 2k to tack on FSD to my early build car. So my financial pain my be "less" than others. But my standard for FSD is probably lower than most as well. I would be perfectly happy with L2 not-FSD during the march of 9's (for those who don't understand that phrase, it's getting FSD from 90% safe to 99% safe to 99.9% safe and so on). That to me is what I think @Usain refers to as "front row seats." I'll be experiencing the journey of getting to an incredibly amazing achievement of L4/5. But I can fully relate to people who just want a turnkey experience without all the drama beforehand.
I don't think I'm the person to ever fully give my trust to the machine, but I love to observe the machine trying to convince me that it can be trusted.
I don't think I'm the person to ever fully give my trust to the machine, but I love to observe the machine trying to convince me that it can be trusted.
So how's your class-action lawsuit going? You've been awfully quiet. Maybe you can give us an update.
EVNow
Well-Known Member
Atleast I have EAP and soon fsd beta. If you sue, you get a few thousand back and .... what ?
dbldwn02
Active Member
Buy stock in literally any company and then buy FSD for $4000 when it's actually working. Early buyers are grandfathered into the $4k purchase later option.
Tesomega
Member
Keep dreaming !So are you going to join in one of these class action lawsuits? You could launch one yourself ya know.
I paid $5k ~2 years ago and it appreciated to $10k. You snooze, you lose. I think I could have gotten it for $4k if I ordered a week or so earlier.
I will still have the EAP (i.e. lane change with a stalk). I can't care less about "Navigate on Autopilot".
EVNow
Well-Known Member
Hmm any company ... that $4k could be zero.
Are you sure you won’t feel missing out on FSD beta ? I sure would, and the reason I got FSD. At this point, it’s essentially an expensive tech toy. As with many tech toys, worth is very subjective.
dbldwn02
Active Member
The FSD is worth about $0 right now. And probably will stay that way for a loooong time. But, at least it stops at all lights, even green ones!
rxlawdude
Active Member
Unless one opts out of binding arbitration, there won't be a class action suit, IMO. It would be fascinating to see the opt-out rate, but I bet it's a relatively small percentage.
Much better chance winning in Small Claims for partial refund of FSD cost. Yet, curiously, not one report of anyone doing this successfully, in spite of SCC forbidding attorneys on either side.
Someone hypothesized that SCC plaintiffs enter some kind of NDA such that we don't hear about success. Possible but unlikely after a verdict for plaintiffs, of which no one, in spite of whining and moaning for months here, has apparently availed themselves of the most direct route to justice.
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EVNow
Well-Known Member
LOL. So, if Tesla spins off its FSD division it would be worth $0 ?
Better stay away from the stock market for a ... "loooong time".
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