I put never.. not that I’m not quite disappointed that after more than 3 years having paid ~7K for FSD to come at some point, I’m pretty sure there is some/enough language in the contracts and website to indicate that there were no guarantees of producing a product that wasn’t fully spelled out for full feature set, or delivery timeframe or guaranteed regulatory approval, etc. One can always try and get a class together, but you’ve got to find competent attorneys to think there is something tangible to go after. Elon’s tweets would be some form of evidence, but that is neither a contract nor a commitment that the company is making. We’ll see. What I would REALLY like is the ability to harvest some amount of $$ out of the car when I sell it - to upgrade to a new model with FSD. I’d really like to see a repeat buyer be able to get say a 50% discount on the full FSD when buying up to a new model. Maybe that depreciates it from the current car - makes some sense. Then, they could allow a buyer of the used car to buy at a discount and overall Tesla could even MAKE money on the deal. At this point, if I buy a new Tesla in the next 1-2 years (not a guarantee with the quality of cars coming out of Audi or Porsche or others) I almost certainly would not buy FSD again even though we are quite a bit closer than three years ago.
-
Want to remove ads? Register an account and login to see fewer ads, and become a Supporting Member to remove almost all ads.
After what time has passed would you consider an FSD class action lawsuit?
- Thread starter Nuclear Fusion
- Start date
That’s a different statement. You can invest in things because you believe they have the potential of being worth something someday in the future (for which you are willing to wait).
I don't believe that Tesla will deliver anything meaningful for that beta. It'll be another Summon-type boondoggle that I'll use once just to test and then never turn it on again.
Tesomega
Member
Why not, with all the Bogus claims from Tesla !
dbldwn02
Active Member
In the waiting room now...if I don't report back, assume they upgraded my MCU and made me sign an NDA.
I kid, I kid...or do I?
EVNow
Well-Known Member
Actually, we don't have to speculate. We have seen exactly what they will deliver. There are hundreds of videos and looks to me - except for well known complicated situations fsd beta drives just fine. Much better than current AP.
Ofcourse, just like AP, there will be a learning curve to figure out what situations its going to be fine and which ones will likely fail. I expect the fail scenarios to be tackled slowly in future releases.
Nitpicking, but end of this year.
"I'm going to. And I opted out of mandatory arbitration, so that's likely going to be a class action lawsuit. I'm waiting for the end of the year."
You have others wanting to join in so maybe you can coordinate. That lawyer that got his complaint to the NTHSA rejected might be game.
"I'm going to. And I opted out of mandatory arbitration, so that's likely going to be a class action lawsuit. I'm waiting for the end of the year."
You have others wanting to join in so maybe you can coordinate. That lawyer that got his complaint to the NTHSA rejected might be game.
Knightshade
Well-Known Member
EVNow
Well-Known Member
Class action lawsuits always result in big fat payout for the lawyers and peanuts for for everyone else.
It was 5K for EAP plus I think 3K to add FSD (or 4K if purchased AFTER pickup). one had to have EAP and then had to buy FSD. I paid the 5K for EAP, and then got the deal to buy FSD add on for 2K (instead of 4K) in I think Feb 2019? So, total it was 7K Total since 2018 for current FSD.
Last edited:
Knightshade
Well-Known Member
Right- but EAP actually, immediately, added a bunch of features to the car you've had full use of for years.
You paid 5k for that. As did lots of other folks including those who never bought FSD at all.
And the entire package you paid the 5k for was fully delivered. Years ago.
You then paid, per your own admission, only 2k for the FSD portion that had features you are still waiting on.
So your claim you paid 7k for stuff you're still waiting on is simply not accurate.
I couldn’t have paid anything LESS than 7K for FSD.. it’s either that or more.. sure, I could have not paid 5K first, and then 7K and paid even MORE than that to have something that has been promised now for several years, but the cost of entry for me at least of FSD was 7K.. some even higher. Most in the past year have paid 10K at this point.
I get your point, but it’s 7K I’ve gotten almost no use out of at this point since TACC and the current EAP/FSDish features dont’ provide much value at all other than long straight away road trips. (Not to mention that EAP didn’t even provide the features IT promised at launch) I don’t trust it to take exits, I don’t trust it to do lane changes on busy highways, I don’t really even like the experience of TACC in congested trafic on highwayS.
I’m very eager to see where we are with FSD at this point, but it’s really not going to prove of much if any function for this year and most of next IMHO.
So, for me at least, as I said in another post, i would have much rather kept that 7K (I could have turned it into 10-12K at this point if not more) and decided the where and when to spend up to 10K to buy something that actually did what was promised and expected by this point.
Last edited:
Knightshade
Well-Known Member
This is a nonsensical argument.
You couldn't have bought FSD without buying the car either, but you can't count the price of the car as "the price of FSD"
Same with EAP.
You paid, by your own admission, $2000 for FSD.
Weird.
I used it for all that stuff daily, and have for years. Works great. Just got home 10 minutes ago from using it-- handled interchanges between 2 different highways, lane changes including ending lanes and passing slower cars, and my final exit, just fine.
Probably 85-90% of the miles on my car over my 3 years ownership have been with some form of EAP features engaged.
It was literally the reason I bought the car rather than just keep driving my perfectly fine already paid for Lexus, and I don't regret it for a second.
It's the reason I'd replace it immediately if it got wrecked- it makes driving vastly vastly better than anything else I've owned, and I've owed a decent # of brands/cars.
Certainly I'd like the 3k I paid for FSD to return some benefits beyond the stop light/stop sign stuff as well... but the EAP features? I'd have paid double for em in retrospect.
I did both.
Financed the car, including EAP and FSD, and invested the cash in TSLA stock.
Not going to get into details, but the return has been much much higher than the 50-60% gains you suggest.
Bear with me,
while I find the facepalm emoji
and just so you know, i’ve already brought and paid for the M3 six times over with my TSLA trades, so at least that‘s worked out.
enjoy
All the more perplexing that we haven't seen more actually launched. I thought TSLAQ shorts had serious money behind them, but now I'm thinking they're relatively poor, don't own a Tesla, and are relegated to posting FUD anonymously on forums and Twitter.
Similar threads
