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Adman2298

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Apr 25, 2018
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So while everyone is going 20's on their new M3's, what about the commuters who are concerned about range, ride and the overall cost of new shoes with lots of rubber?? What about the commuter that just wants it to look super cool and still function?

That's where I went and here is my story...I would like to hear what you think!

It is possible to have a super cool, sporty, staggered setup without sacrificing weight or a ton of range!!

What if I told you that you could get staggered 19" wheels and tires that weighed exactly the same as the stock 18" range extender rims with hub caps??

Check this out...

Avant Garde M621 Flow Forged wheels. 19x8.5 front, 19x9.5 rear. 245/40 front, 275/35 rear. 49 lbs and 50 lbs.

Stock rims with hub caps were 49 lbs. (ok so not exact but the 275's added 1 pound...that's some serious tire BTW.)

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As we can see, the sidewall is not too small so no worries about blown tires or ride concerns and they still look very sporty and very much functional as far as weight is concerned. In the small commute I had to get them installed and drive back home, it was very similar as far as usage. I'll have more feedback on that in the future when I have had more time to drive with them.

Let me know your thoughts and thank you to Josh at Get Your Wheels. These are awesome and absolutely fit the bill when I said I wanted form and function but still keep the sporty cool factor of a staggered setup!

Enjoy and post below. Thanks.
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Hayden

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Apr 12, 2016
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I would of gone for a narrower pulled tire now they look like balloon tires.
Prefer 20' and otherwise, the original Tesla sportwheels.
Sorry, not my style.
Looks nice so low to the ground.
 

Adman2298

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Apr 25, 2018
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Los Angeles, CA
Each to his own, but in my personal option the design and colour of the wheels on that coloured M3 look horrible.
Appreciate the feedback...I'm not a fan of the black rims and think that ship has sailed...machined will be back, especially with darker colored cars. But, that's why there are hundreds of different designs right...
 

dhu1

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Mar 9, 2017
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I had the springs done by Unplugged Performance and yes, it looks lower to me as well. I have an appointment to take it in and have it looked at. Will update once I hear back...
What did Unplugged say? My guess is that stock rear is lower already and that springs just accentuated the lower rear. Just curious as I have the same situation--which I don't think is an issue, but would like some validation.
 

Adman2298

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Apr 25, 2018
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Los Angeles, CA
What did Unplugged say? My guess is that stock rear is lower already and that springs just accentuated the lower rear. Just curious as I have the same situation--which I don't think is an issue, but would like some validation.
I need to take the car into them. Have you measured the height from ground to top of the wheel well before and after? Mine shows ground clearance at 3.5" in the back and 4" in the front. Definitely lower but once I talk to them, I'll know more. Front ground to top of wheel well is 27.25" and rear is 26.5". I don't know what stock is to calc the actual drop...
 

dhu1

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Mar 9, 2017
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I need to take the car into them. Have you measured the height from ground to top of the wheel well before and after? Mine shows ground clearance at 3.5" in the back and 4" in the front. Definitely lower but once I talk to them, I'll know more. Front ground to top of wheel well is 27.25" and rear is 26.5". I don't know what stock is to calc the actual drop...

Currently my car, after the Unplugged moderate springs, has a front height of 27.5" back height of 26.5"

Stock car (using my wife's M3 (with 18" aero) as benchmark, 29" front, 28.5" in the back

So 1.5" in drop in the front and 2.0" in drop in the back.

See my experience in this link---

Lowering the Model 3

Don't think it is an issue....so let me know if you find out anything.
 

Adman2298

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Apr 25, 2018
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Los Angeles, CA
Nice! good to see more machined wheels going on MSM. Are right side wheels directional also?

Maybe it's the shading, or driveway slope, but rear does look lower than front. Which brand springs are you using?
Yes, same direction on the rims and can be done the other way as well since I went P Zero All Season Plus tires. Also, the springs are the Unplugged Performance - Moderate but we need to confirm that. It seems really low but I never measured it before they installed them for the difference. The stock 18" are 26.4" diameter and the new wheels are 26.6" diameter. Shouldn't make any significant difference.
 

Adman2298

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Apr 25, 2018
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Los Angeles, CA
Currently my car, after the Unplugged moderate springs, has a front height of 27.5" back height of 26.5"

Stock car (using my wife's M3 (with 18" aero) as benchmark, 29" front, 28.5" in the back

So 1.5" in drop in the front and 2.0" in drop in the back.

See my experience in this link---

Lowering the Model 3

Don't think it is an issue....so let me know if you find out anything.
I think that is a problem. They specifically told me it was supposed to drop equally to not mess with the autopilot software. It should be 1.5" on both front and rear so it remains equal.
 

dhu1

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Mar 9, 2017
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I think that is a problem. They specifically told me it was supposed to drop equally to not mess with the autopilot software. It should be 1.5" on both front and rear so it remains equal.
Then why would stock be different heights? I have not had any issues with autopilot.

@UnpluggedP please comment.
 
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Xenoilphobe

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I definitely would not put 20's on this car unless you don't mind the 20% range hit and reduction in HP.

18 inch and maybe 19 inch if the wheels weight less than the stock 18's (which weigh 21.6 lbs without aero covers)

At least the PZero's are fairly light tires.

Aftermarket Wheels - What are you getting?

On my 3rd Model S, I have dumped the 21's and gone to 19's due to hours spent on the side of road due to cracked wheels, bubbles, shred tires - my time is worth more than lipstick looks on my car. It only took once on the wife's car for her to demand to pull those "crappy wheels" on her 90D.

Downgrading to 19″ Wheels (on a Model S)

18 vs 19 inch wheels? Help please

Also if you are going to spend the money get real mono-block forged Aluminum 6061 T6 wheels, which will be lighter than stock in most cases.
 
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Adman2298

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Apr 25, 2018
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Los Angeles, CA
I definitely would not put 20's on this car unless you don't mind the 20% range hit and reduction in HP.

18 inch and maybe 19 inch if the wheels weight less than the stock 18's (which weigh 21.6 lbs without aero covers)

At least the PZero's are fairly light tires.

Aftermarket Wheels - What are you getting?

On my 3rd Model S, I have dumped the 21's and gone to 19's due to hours spent on the side of road due to cracked wheels, bubbles, shred tires - my time is worth more than lipstick looks on my car. It only took once on the wife's car for her to demand to pull those "crappy wheels" on her 90D.

Downgrading to 19″ Wheels (on a Model S)

18 vs 19 inch wheels? Help please

Also if you are going to spend the money get real mono-block forged Aluminum 6061 T6 wheels, which will be lighter than stock in most cases.

I'm not seeing any range loss on my commute into LA everyday. This past weekend, I made it to Vegas on 1 charge from SoCal (Rancho Cucamonga) and it is uphill all the way and I was doing 75-85 average the entire drive. It was close, don't get me wrong, but I made it! There are 3 different supercharger options on your way...Barstow, Baker and Primm.
 
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