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EVS Motors

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For Sale:
Vorsteiner VFF-107 Zara Gray
Size: 20x9 / 20x10.5
Fitment: Non-performance and performance Model 3
Condition: Pre-owned, no dents or curb rashes

Tires: Michelin Pilot Sport 4S
Size: 245/35/20 | 285/30/20
Condition: Pre-owned, small cosmetic cut on 1 tire. See tire depth gauges for tire life.

TPMS installed. Mounted and balanced.
MSRP: $5200
Sale Price: $2500 + shipping for rims, tires, tpms, mounted and balanced. Only 1 set.
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I like your setup and was actually looking at AG wheels and lowering the car. If you don't mind, a few questions?

I see you say you have Unplugged "milds". However, on UP's web site for the M3 Performance/PUP I only see the "UP Super Performance" option to select. Did you get springs for a non-Performance and use them? I'm a bit confused because I want to lower my M3P but I don't want to make the ride a lot stiffer (nor do I want the rear end to optically look lower than the front). Your setup looks about right to me.

As for the AG wheels, I'm assuming they bored out the part to accommodate the rotors on the M3P? Also, how does the offset look from the front/back, ie how flush are they to the sides?

Thanks for your help! Your car looks great.

Thanks, Chuckie!

Yes, the wheels came bored out.

I got my springs earlier in the year so maybe they don't make MILDS for the performance version anymore? Either that or they basically packaged the regular MILDS and told me it's for the performance because the box says MILDS for the performance version. LOL.

Here's what the offset looks like front/back. I have 5mm spacers to make it look more aggressive but I've been too lazy to put it on.


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dfwatt

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For those running 20x9 front and 20x10.5 rears, what tires and sizes are you guys running and how has it affected your range?

We've got two model 3 performance cars. One has vorsteiner 9 x 20 and 10.5 x 20 with Tesla specific 275 / 30 - 20 tires on the rear and with stock Michelin PS4s all around on one car and on the fronts on the other car that has the staggered setup pictured below. Of course driving styles (and degree of around town versus Highway) vary but my wife actually loves to punch it - so I don't think her car which has the squared set up necessarily gets driven more gently. All that said the car with a staggered wheels is actually getting better Watt hours per mile probably because of a front air dam and being lowered over an inch. When I started measuring consumption when I first got the staggered wheel setup with the larger Rears, I was seeing something like 10 Watt hours per mile at most worth of extra drag and rolling resistance. Bottom line - the staggered rears really don't cost you much mileage, unless you drop the offset too much and end up with a lot of poke out, which I don't recommend for a lot of reasons. And the bit of extra consumption from the 275 / 30 which is presumably mostly drag on the highway and not much extra rolling resistance you can easily get back and then some with better aerodynamics.

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dfwatt

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What spring setup is that? That's perfect! *I have non-P AWD.

If you can afford and of course the cost difference is non-trivial you're going to be happier over the long-term with the coilover kits. Either the Sport or the Comfort coilover kit from MPP for example will give you much more adjustability in terms of ride height while also giving you adjustable shocks in the Sports coilover kit and better than stock shocks in the comfort coilover kit. But the cost difference is significant.

I don't think there's been an official poll here but I would bet that a significant fraction of the folks that do lowering springs end up switching to coilover kits later. Maybe it would be a good thing to get a unofficial poll going to clarify.

I've done both, and I won't do lowering springs by themselves anymore.
 

N54TT

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Thanks for that.

from the post "1) We're using flow-forming (or rotary forging as some prefer) for the barrel construction as this dramatically reduces mass at the outer radius and gives you the biggest win on reducing inertia while keeping pricing in mere-mortal range."

so, still a flow formed cast wheel.

not forged, heaver and less expensive.

i'm talking all out no holes barred forged SUPER light - even carbon barrels is what would be the ultimate wheel. then a removable aero cover, maybe carbon.

I'd buy a set and so would many many others

Here you go!! Post up pics after you get them!
Unplugged Performance UP-03 Carbon Fiber Wheels for Tesla Vehicles

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dfwatt

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15000 bucks for a set of rims is just about like their $600 titanium lug nuts. Crazy. I might even think about it if they provided wheel sizes. Don't understand why they can't put in common specifications .....like wheel width. I suspect that their performance configuration is 8.5 in wide fronts + 9.5 rears. But you shouldn't have to guess.
 
For those of you going for the stance look:


SSR Koenig
20x11.5 +30ish
255/30/20 Michelin Pilot Sport 4s

This is the most rim you can fit in the front, I have about 1mm clearance to the spindle, and had to pull the fenders about 5mm. Once UCAs are out for this car you can probably fit a 12" up front. In the rear I still have about 3" of space, so a 14" wheel is possible back there w/o much camber.

Suspension wise I am on airtekk bags, and have MPP rear camber and toe arms.


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For those of you going for the stance look:


SSR Koenig
20x11.5 +30ish
255/30/20 Michelin Pilot Sport 4s

This is the most rim you can fit in the front, I have about 1mm clearance to the spindle, and had to pull the fenders about 5mm. Once UCAs are out for this car you can probably fit a 12" up front. In the rear I still have about 3" of space, so a 14" wheel is possible back there w/o much camber.

Suspension wise I am on airtekk bags, and have MPP rear camber and toe arms.


The look is awesome! how much is the ride improved with the airtekk bags?
 

dfwatt

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Sep 24, 2018
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For those of you going for the stance look:


SSR Koenig
20x11.5 +30ish
255/30/20 Michelin Pilot Sport 4s

This is the most rim you can fit in the front, I have about 1mm clearance to the spindle, and had to pull the fenders about 5mm. Once UCAs are out for this car you can probably fit a 12" up front. In the rear I still have about 3" of space, so a 14" wheel is possible back there w/o much camber.

Suspension wise I am on airtekk bags, and have MPP rear camber and toe arms.


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T5Z5cCS.jpg


LJDjTaI.jpg


ClCFDQp.jpg

Unquestionably the most radical setup I've ever seen on a Model 3! But what about your tire size? Was that a typo or misprint when you talked about 255 / 30? They look like 285 / 30? Even with maximum stretch I'm not sure you could fit a 255 on 11.5 in rim
 
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The look is awesome! how much is the ride improved with the airtekk bags?
Right now the ride is a lot firmer than stock since I drive it at a really low height. But it's still really smooth.

Unquestionably the most radical setup I've ever seen on a Model 3! But what about your tire size? Was that a typo or misprint when you talked about 255 / 30? They look like 285 / 30? Even with maximum stretch I'm not sure you could fit a 255 on 11.5 in rim

255 isn't that bad of a stretch, though the 30 sidewall made it very difficult to stretch that far. I was contemplating between a 255 or a 265, but went with 255 to be sure I could get the proper fitment. But now that I have it mounted, a 265/30/20 would have worked as well.
 

dfwatt

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Right now the ride is a lot firmer than stock since I drive it at a really low height. But it's still really smooth.



255 isn't that bad of a stretch, though the 30 sidewall made it very difficult to stretch that far. I was contemplating between a 255 or a 265, but went with 255 to be sure I could get the proper fitment. But now that I have it mounted, a 265/30/20 would have worked as well.

I'd put at least a 265/30 if not 275 / 30 on that wheel. But that's just me I'm not into these kinds of super radical setups. The other question is did you remove the bump stops on the suspension? Seems like you're really close to running out of suspension travel just at normal ride height? Also curious what those Konig wheels weigh?
 
I'd put at least a 265/30 if not 275 / 30 on that wheel. But that's just me I'm not into these kinds of super radical setups. The other question is did you remove the bump stops on the suspension? Seems like you're really close to running out of suspension travel just at normal ride height? Also curious what those Konig wheels weigh?

I'm on full air suspension from airtekk, comes with new struts. I forgot to weigh them, I'll get some weights w/ tires the next time I have them off the car.

Lol @duracell pillows in the frunk.

They are actually Accuair air tanks for the air suspension :D
 
For those of you going for the stance look:


SSR Koenig
20x11.5 +30ish
255/30/20 Michelin Pilot Sport 4s

This is the most rim you can fit in the front, I have about 1mm clearance to the spindle, and had to pull the fenders about 5mm. Once UCAs are out for this car you can probably fit a 12" up front. In the rear I still have about 3" of space, so a 14" wheel is possible back there w/o much camber.

Suspension wise I am on airtekk bags, and have MPP rear camber and toe arms.


uyP2CsE.jpg


T5Z5cCS.jpg


LJDjTaI.jpg


ClCFDQp.jpg
SWEET!!!! Share more pic with driving stance.
 

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