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Air vs adaptive suspension

Discussion in 'Model S: Driving Dynamics' started by voltage, Sep 28, 2019.

  1. voltage

    voltage Member

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    Hi. I’m thinking about buying a used MS performance for around $60k. My biggest concern is the ride quality. I drove a Raven and the suspension felt just right. Does air suspension in say a 2016 model give a similar ride? I’ll probably go with 19” wheels. I ended up selling my model 3 due to the harsh ride. Thanks
     
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    I have a 2014 P85 and while I have not been in a Raven I have been in a co-workers 3 and mine is softer.
     
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    I have a 2015 P85D with + suspension.

    Also drove a raven refresh recently and the raven is much softer (which I personally did not like).

    I cannot comment on the standard performance suspension.
     
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    Would you say it feels more like a Cadillac?
     
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    Raven is not Cadillac level, but it feels better than just air suspension. Comparing my previous P85+, which was great, I like the Raven suspension better. The "Sport" setting (to me) feels like my P85+, and the "Standard" setting is smoother.
     
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  6. voltage

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    Thanks for that input. Sport felt more like a Model 3 to me. Standard was just right. Maybe I’ll go for a LR instead of buying used. I really want a performance but at 100k it’s more than I want to spend. Also wanted a sunroof. Oh well.
     
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    Never driven a Cadillac in my life.
     
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    For what its worth the 2014 P85D had the best feeling/ suspension of any Tesla I've ever driven (including my current P100DL)
     
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    agree - for sporty driving. Raven is way better for every day driving. IMHO.
     
  10. jerseygirl18

    jerseygirl18 jersey girl

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    i traded in an 2016 S550...it's not a fair apples to apples comparison...however, the ride is 90% of the smoothness of the MB. The 2016 S was the smoothest i ever owned in 3 decades with MB. My hubs is most critical of how cars ride (he drives a 911..((not so smooth..HAHA)) he is totally cool with my X. He has no complaints! i think the Raven has really made it great riding with the new suspension.
     
  11. FatherTo1

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    Glad we got a Raven S as ride quality matters to me, coming from a Lexus LS 460. Like the post above, I feel the Raven air suspension provides 90% comfort of the big Lexus.

    I initially looked at used S/X but the X had horrible ride quality, even on 20s. I have had three 2018 S 75D loaners and they definitely ride harsher than the Raven refresh. I don't think I could live with the pre-Raven ride quality. Here's some data from one of the YouTube reviews:

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  12. voltage

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    Thanks for reviving this. I did go with a Raven model. 2020 performance in red. Still waiting for delivery. I do love the adaptive suspension.
     
  13. FatherTo1

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    Congratulations and many happy miles ahead!
     
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  14. jerseygirl18

    jerseygirl18 jersey girl

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    I never drove a preRaven except on demo prior to purchase. Who remembers...I do know my MX Raven is super quiet, extremely comfortable & I'm not missing my MB S 550..and that was a comfortable ride..."moved on " as they say
     

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