All discussion of Lucid Motors

[uujjj2]

In response to Rawlinson saying "We won't have level 4 or level 5 anytime soon. That's pure fantasy. Nobody will.", Elon said:

Rawlinson was never chief engineer. He arrived after Model S prototype was made, left before things got tough & was only ever responsible for body engineering, not powertrain, battery, software, production or design.

There's some semantics to parse here. Rawlinson was chief vehicle engineer for the Model S, not chief engineer of the whole company. JB Straubel led the powertrain/battery engineering, Franz the design. I think Elon's trying to make a point that Rawlinson isn't qualified to make claims about autonomous driving, but typical for Elon it doesn't come out right.

 

[JRP3]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1390742832751779847

 

[RobStark]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1390742832751779847

Could be excellent spend of $200k.

 

[mk677]

Could be excellent spend of $200k.

a big time troll by Lucid

 

[bkp_duke]

a big time troll by Lucid

Which is still nothing but good press for Tesla.

 

[RobStark]

Which is still nothing but good press for Tesla.

Under the general theory that anything that happens is good for Tesla.

According to Tesla the only product not production constrained is FSD licenses.

I suppose whatever Lucid says/does on a commercial will mean more people research Tesla and therefore more people will buy FSD?

 

[uujjj2]

Lucid ran a commercial during SNL. It was completely generic and unmemorable.

 

[JRP3]

Maybe it will at least create some interest in the stock.

 

[RobStark]

Lucid ran a commercial during SNL. It was completely generic and unmemorable.

My buddy texted me " So the Lucid gets 500 miles per charge? "

 

[uujjj2]

Lucid ran a commercial during SNL. It was completely generic and unmemorable.

On further thought, I realize my reaction is the reaction of a longtime EV fan sitting in the middle of Silicon Valley. I've been following Lucid for years, so to me this commercial is lame. But 90% of regular people have never heard of Lucid, and a "lame", "boring" commercial that merely announces the existence of Lucid is still useful.

 

[JRP3]

I dumped my CCIV today, don't see any near term upside and Rawlinson seemed evasive in this interview. Didn't give me a good feeling and I was never all that enthusiastic about the company, mostly hoping for some EV hype momentum which seems to have burned out across the board.

Lucid Motors CEO on going public, revenue projections

CNBC's "TechCheck" team discusses electric vehicles and the outlook for the sector with Lucid Motors CEO Peter Rawlison.

www.cnbc.com

 

[mark95476]

577 this year and wouldn't commit to 20k next year.

I dumped my CCIV today, don't see any near term upside and Rawlinson seemed evasive in this interview. Didn't give me a good feeling and I was never all that enthusiastic about the company, mostly hoping for some EV hype momentum which seems to have burned out across the board.

Lucid Motors CEO on going public, revenue projections

CNBC's "TechCheck" team discusses electric vehicles and the outlook for the sector with Lucid Motors CEO Peter Rawlison.

www.cnbc.com

 

[RobStark]

First Deliveries in July?

BTW Peter said "over 577" this year on CNBC. He is setting the bar really low IMO.

Here Come Deliveries: Lucid Motors Has Already Built 74 Pre-Production Vehicles With Production Run for Final Quality Validation Expected To Take Place in June

Lucid Motors is now progressing rapidly toward formally commencing the deliveries of the Lucid Air electric vehicle by July 2021

wccftech.com

 

[Tes La Ferrari]

Lucid expanding showroom presence with first showroom in Canada. It will be located in downtown Vancouver.

"Vancouver is said to be the top market for electric vehicle ownership in North America, making Lucid’s move into the Vancouver market an intelligent one. Last year, 9.2% of all vehicle sales in British Columbia were electric — up from just 4% in 2018. Trailing British Columbia is Quebec where almost 7% of cars sold are electric, followed by 2% of Ontario vehicles. The Montreal market could very well be Lucid’s next target for a showroom as 7.8% of cars sold in the city last year were electric."

Electric Vehicle Company ‘Lucid Motors’ to Enter Canada with 1st Retail Showroom that will feature Virtual Reality

The company is entering the Canadian market in the third quarter this year as a disruptor to Tesla, Polestar and Genesis Motors.

retail-insider.com

 

[RobStark]

Merger pushed back from Q2 to early Q3

Reservations top 9k

Guidance goes from "over 577" to "less than 1000."

Lucid testing BES

74 release candidates produced

Lucid has 6 stores open another 4 stores immenent. Lucid has over 2k employees.

6 Major Updates That Lucid Motors Just Provided Investors | The Motley Fool

Total vehicle reservations have now topped 9,000 and Lucid is on the cusp of starting production.

www.fool.com

 

[MP3Mike]

It seems like the new Model S may have bested the Lucid Air Cd:

Pulled from this video.

Even if only by a little bit.

 

[JRP3]

They mentioned that a while back.

Tesla says the new Model S is the world's most aerodynamic production car

With a coefficient of drag that's just 0.208, the updated Model S narrowly beats out the Lucid Air, but there's a catch or two.

www.cnet.com

 

[MP3Mike]

They mentioned that a while back.

Tesla says the new Model S is the world's most aerodynamic production car

With a coefficient of drag that's just 0.208, the updated Model S narrowly beats out the Lucid Air, but there's a catch or two.

www.cnet.com

Thanks, I must have missed, or forgotten that.

 

[uujjj2]

Tesla Model S and Lucid Air are probably pretty close in Cd, but Lucid's smaller frontal area gives the Air a smaller CdA.

Side note: Automakers, especially German ones, have a history of lying about drag coefficients. Mercedes infamously claimed the CLA had the best Cd in the industry when it was actually average. Porsche claims .22 for the Taycan, but with those wheels I think the real number is probably around .24 to .26.

 

[DonaldBecker]

Tesla Model S and Lucid Air are probably pretty close in Cd, but Lucid's smaller frontal area gives the Air a smaller CdA.

Side note: Automakers, especially German ones, have a history of lying about drag coefficients. Mercedes infamously claimed the CLA had the best Cd in the industry when it was actually average. Porsche claims .22 for the Taycan, but with those wheels I think the real number is probably around .24 to .26.

I didn't know about the CLA, so I looked it up.

The announcements seemed to broadly claim that the CLA would have a Cd of 0.23, and a specific edition would have a Cd of only 0.22.

Mercedes Claims Its CLA Is The World's Most Aerodynamic Production Car

Common car design wisdom says that a low coefficient of drag is desirable to increase fuel economy and allow for engine downsizing. At highway speeds, up to 60-percent of the power produced by the engine is used just to move the vehicle through the air. Modern production cars typically have drag...

www.motorauthority.com

The reality was that when a U.S.-spec CLA was tested by Car and Driver, it had a Cd of 0.30. The other cars tested were spot-on the claimed value, which suggests that the test was fair and accurate.

Mercedes then claimed only a specific European-only limited edition had a low Cd. That edition had extensive fairings and ducting, wheel arch spoilers, a different exhaust system, and many other differences from the standard model. One key one may have been shutters over the front air inlets, which open as needed. (So the car was slippery when tested in a wind tunnel, but not when running.at highway speeds.)

Oddly, I couldn't find any follow-up tests. The special edition wasn't available in the U.S., so Car and Driver couldn't easily get one for a re-test. Normally you would expect Mercedes to provide one for a competing magazine to write a "they did it wrong" headline. I think that we can read between the lines.