You should try with DWS06+. For an Ultra-high performance all-season tire, this tire really floaty with me. I used to put it on my Q5. Compared to the MXM4s that came with the car, I don't see a performance advantage, but better tire wear and slightly better traction. I live in snow country and was amazed at how well they handle on light and deep snow. You can check out this article for more information. Continental ExtremeContact DWS06 PLUS Review of 2022: Excellent Blend of Performance and Comfort - Tireer.com
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All Season Performance Tires recommendations?
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I agree.
The worst GT AS tire is going to be worse in snow than the best UHP AS tire, BUT, the best GT AS tire is going to be better than the best UHP AS tire without a doubt.
“Best” means different things to different people. Name some specific tires that you’re referring to.
There is not a single UHP all season that has a 3PMS rating that I'm aware of. I could be wrong. I'll let you research to correct me.
CarlThompson
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Tire Rack classifies that as a Grand Touring tire, FYI.
CarlThompson
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Vredestein itself says it's a UHP tire. Since they make the tire I'm going to go with their answer.
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In what Tire Rack describes as “… a recipe for a paradigm shift in the category”, the Vredestein Quatrac Pro outperformed other leading brands in third-party independent tests for the All-Weather segment. The Vredestein Quatrac Pro was placed on top in the category of Grand Touring tires.Vredestein itself says it's a UHP tire. Since they make the tire I'm going to go with their answer.
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Straight from Vredesteins website.
I see Vredestein lists it as an UHP tire, but then what I quoted directly underneath.
As my 10 yr old would say, "seems sus."
I'm sure it's a fantastic tire.
CarlThompson
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TheDriveway
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Our vote goes to the Michelin AS4's. Only heard positive feedback from our clients.
I called my contact at Tire Rack and asked why the difference in the classification of the Vredestein tire, GT versus UHP. Yes, I'm in the Automotive repair business, with over 30 years experience in passenger and commercial tire sales. Not that that makes any difference to you, as I'm sure you're one of those guys who's never wrong. But whatevs. This is for the other people that will read this.
The reason for the GT classification of this particular Vredestein tire is due specifically to the 3PMS, which makes the tire a true "all weather" tire, as opposed to an "all season" tire that only has an M+S designation. Vredestein has a true UHP tire, the Hypertrac, that is much more geared towards handling and wet traction, and less towards winter traction. The rep I spoke to stated this question has been asked before, and he's not sure why Vredestein lists the Quatrac Pro as an UHP when it's really not. He asked me if I'd rather Autocross in a Cross Climate tire, or a Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4? Or which one I'd rather have in snow and slush. The answer should be pretty obvious.
You can like and buy what you want, as will I, but I agree with Tire Rack, it is not a true UHP tire.
CarlThompson
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So what you're saying is that your 30 years experience means that you know better about the tire than the company that makes the tire itself? Wow.
No. Not at all. Nice try, troll.
I do believe Tire Rack over Vredestein, though.
CarlThompson
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Vredestein MAKES THE TIRE!!! Why would you believe some company that just sells tires mail order over the company that designs and builds them?
So they’re basically saying any tire with a 3PMS symbol will be categorized as a GT from their POV (excluding dedicated winter tires obv).
It might make sense from their POV. AW isn’t really well-known as a distinct category from
AS yet. It benefits them to promote it and gain consumer buy-in.
You are in a semi-similar situation as I am. I could probably get away with Summer tires, except I run the R9 tires (studs) so don't put them on till mid November, and take them off mid/late March. We do get some days in October/early November and late March where it gets below freezing (some years) and rare but occasional snow (like every 4-5 years)
I'll be replacing the tires this spring, and not sure what to get (18"), so really interested in this
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