The press and forum traffic are awash with all the news of EAP crashes and who's at fault, etc. Isn't the fundamental question one of the risk an operator is willing to take? That is, if I have complete trust in the AI driving my car, I'll let it drive and not worry about it anymore. OTOH if I doubt the AI's ability to operate in all circumstances, I'll assess each one and own control when I think I should. All of the crashes I've read about fall in to first category. People are just too trusting of the tech and taking on too much risk. EAP is nowhere near capable of driving the car anywhere but on interstate highways with well marked lanes. Folks here routinely "test" EAP in situations where I would never allow an automaton to operate. It's just too complicated at present time to be certain that all decisions will be correct. Crests of hills, urban intersections, single lane twisty roads, etc. all are interesting test cases but not places people should be allowing the AI to operate. EAP was marketed to me as developing tech and nothing more than level 2. The service techs also caution me every time I see them that AP really works best and is designed for the interstate situation. And that's why I bought it. My use case is driving long distances on the interstate where at times I can engage EAP when conditions are mundane. This is where I would get totally bored driving. Those 200-300 miles where I can reduce my steering input, mirror and speed scans keeps me alert for the rest of the day's drive. Each time I get new FW I do go out and see what EAP can do now and each time I'm not impressed. It still drives well on the interstate, but is not trustworthy anywhere else. It can't reliably determine if a car is or is not in my lane. It cannot determine that a crossing car making a left in front of me will be out of the way by the time I get there. It cannot choose which of the lane markings it should follow when one disappears because of an entrance ramp. It cannot determine that a right turning car will be gone out of my lane when I get there. These situations and more tell me that I cannot rely on EAP to work through these situations so I don't use it. So I'm wondering why does everyone want EAP to be more than it is? Yeah I know Elon said so but you should all know that evangelists almost always describe the unattainable future. And by this time given all the disappointments along the way you should not lend a whole lot of credence to what he said or says. This whole self driving thing reminds me of other tech like fusion that was always 20 years ahead and still remains 20 years ahead 40 years later. Car manufacturers touting level 5 autonomy in the next few years will 10 years from now still be saying it is just a few years away.