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Sunshine State
Automotive Enthusiast
I really don’t care how it’s made, it’s amazing anyway. I’m just disappointed it is not being offered right now. They took it out in early 2016 for a while so who knows how long before it’s back. They are probably working on getting a new supplier. It isn’t as big of a deal on the 3’s but the S and X deserve better.
Krugerrand
Meow
Very little substance there. Just a few short paragraphs claiming that Tesla "throws suppliers under the bus" and blames them for Tesla's own mistakes when, according to the author, those suppliers are excellent, competent manufacturers that work just fine with "other car makers." There are no citations for his claims or any evidence offered. Just the anecdote about the disastrous two-speed transmission in the original Roadster. (Which I thought was a bad idea at the time, and said so the day I was given a ride in an engineering prototype.) And which Tesla ended up doing away with.
And on the other side from the very short hatchet article linked above is the car company that single-handedly created the electric revolution, that without any doubt builds the best electric cars on the market, and which I would say are the best cars on the market, period. And its CEO who also leads the first private company ever to successfully deliver payloads to the ISS, and I believe is also the first to ever land a rocket booster for re-use.
Why would a supplier want to work with Tesla? To be part of the transportation revolution going forward and potentially be part of the exponential growth of a new industry. Only one other car company (Nissan) has shown itself to be really serious about electric cars, and its technology is far behind Tesla's.
Sunshine State
Automotive Enthusiast
I think you are really stretching your point there. I like Tesla’s and have three but I don’t think even Tesla enthusiasts would go as far as "best cars on the market, period", that’s getting silly. You can argue about "electric" but not cars in general. It makes your whole argument seem less realistic when you start saying things like that.
FWIW, I took delivery with Alcantara headliner and has similar fitment issue on the rear (on one side only, the other side is fine)
Note that while I made the statement about "best electric cars" categorical, I made the statement about "best cars on the market" an expression of my opinion. That is my opinion, based on what matters to me in a car: safety and environmental impact.
I will admit that I've been chided before on my automotive opinions. I drove a 1989 Honda Civic for a number of years and one friend of mine laughed (good-naturedly) when I said it was the best car on the road: It was very fuel-efficient for its time, never broke down, handled well, was fun to drive (stick shift), and the station-wagon body style was enormously useful and practical.
So while I am aware that not everyone shares my opinion, I do think that Tesla is making the best cars on the market today. If someone gave me [insert anybody's favorite non-Tesla car here] I would sell it and keep driving my Roadster until my Model 3 comes. BMW, Mercedes, Rolls Royce, Lambo, Bugatti, Porsche; I'll take a Tesla over any of them. (Though I do wish that the Model 3 were a foot shorter and half a foot narrower. My ideal would be a Tesla Model S scaled down to the size of my old '89 Civic.)
Hmmm, so in your argument that we should all get over accepting a lower quality headliner you say that you now notice on a daily basis how much you dislike the Alcantara in your S as compared to the more premium quality of the leather dash in your Jag and overall interior in your Caddy. Interesting.
I have now opted to sleep in my Tesla every night while hugging my alcantara accented dash.
I understand this is your opinion, to which you are entitled, but I disagree. Tesla has a lot of work to do before anyone can proclaim that it builds the "best cars on the market, period." You need to define what you mean by "best". Do you mean acceleration/performance? Do you mean comfort/luxury? Do you mean initial quality? Build quality? Features? How is it "the best"?
I love my Model S, but the best car on the market it certainly is not.
I mean that I like them the best.
They burn no gasoline, which right there makes them better than any car with an ICE, and the 5-star-in-every-category safety ratings completes it. You gotta realize that for me, any car that burns fossil fuel is evil. Cars that burn used fry oil are an intermediate category, but I don't think there's enough used fry oil to make a real dent in transportation. I make no bones about the fact that I'm a Tesla fanboy.I don't care about luxury features. Heck, my old Zap Xebra was a piece of sh!t, and it was a better car than anything that burns gas or diesel. So, I hold a minority point of view, but I'll shout it to the rooftops.
For me it is responsive performance. Any car that has any sort of transmission is automatically disqualified.
This is the most important point. Some people didn't care about headliner, XM, AM, wheels or other stuff. Some do!
How would you feel if after 2 year wait, 1 month after you configured your car and paid the non-refundable second deposit you come to pick up your car and something you cared about and expected it there is not, yet there is another car just like your sitting next to it with that option present and you are told that thats somebody else car and we decided to upgrade your car by removing the option you liked without letting you know and charging you the same money. How is this fair? What does it look like to you when they ask you to sign all the documents and pay the balance before they show you your car ?
