Amber rear turn signals?

[youlikeadajuice]

Not sure about others, but I like them more from a purely aesthetic perspective... Though I have seen people tap their brakes and momentarily thought they were signaling.

That's what it boils down to with me...an aesthetic thing. Personally I like the red a bit better, I think the overall look with just red is much cleaner...

 

[TEG]

It'd have been very cool if Tesla had something distinctive like the ones on the Mustang!

Modified NSX:

Modified Supra:

Stock Mustang Sequential:

European Mustang Amber:

 

[SByer]

When I'm cycling, I HATE red turn signals. It's so hard to tell at a glance - and sorry, that's all I've got time for as I also have to pay attention to the other moron behind me who might do a stupid right hook turn (it's dangerous, and it's illegal, at least in California, to turn right without merging into the bike lane - yet all the stupid drivers... sigh...)

Even worse, the U.S. has to have the stupidest turn signal regulations EVER, as they allow colocation of said inferior red turn signal with the brake lights. How stupid is that? Cadillac and Jeep designers seem to be the most fond of committing this atrocity.

Turn signals should be amber, and never in the same location as the brake lights. Period. The EU has this right.

(I would buy into a group mod for the Roadster).

 

[TRON]

Hiho, my EU Tesla has the amber lights
Greetings from Hollywood (the first around the world electric car race - 80 electric days - world round trip)
Rafael

 

[AnOutsider]

Here's something I saw in the MVPA that could put a damper on anyone wanting to tweak their Model S by swapping parts, or even tinkering with the software:

Though I think the Roadster had the same MVPA (this doc says copyright 2010) and OVMS and similar projects have definitely tinkered with the software -- and we know people have swapped tails and other things, so maybe this is just some broad legalese that will never be enforced (or I'm interpreting wrong).

 

[Doug_G]

It does say, "save only to the extent permitted by applicable law." Reverse engineering is quite legal within certain bounds.

 

[NigelM]

OVMS and similar projects have definitely tinkered with the software --

OVMS is not tinkering with the software. It's a monitoring system, and can communicate certain owner commands back to the car. Those commands are the same ones the owner would input normally through the VDS.

 

[AnOutsider]

OVMS is not tinkering with the software. It's a monitoring system, and can communicate certain owner commands back to the car. Those commands are the same ones the owner would input normally through the VDS.

I thought there was a lot of reverse engineering that went into figuring out how to do it all though...

 

[NigelM]

If not a single line of code in the software was changed and not a single line added or removed, you are wrong to describe that as "tinkering with the software".

 

[AnOutsider]

If not a single line of code in the software was changed and not a single line added or removed, you are wrong to describe that as "tinkering with the software".

I did not mean modifying the software, I meant tinkering around as in looking under the hood, poking things to see how they work.... Reverse engineering.

 

[vfx]

Tesla has always been weird about selling parts. Something about Lotus owners buying all their stock. That may have changed because the last time I asked they said "We will sell you what ever you want." I am skeptical.
Can you buy a manual?
A front T logo?
A CF trunk for your 2.5?


Do we have a EU US taillight reference?

 

[widodh]

Now people have driven the Model S, any final word on the turn signals?

I some videos I saw the front and side signals to be amber, so we can be sure on that one. I never saw any rear turn signals.

Anybody noticed?

 

[markwj]

I did not mean modifying the software, I meant tinkering around as in looking under the hood, poking things to see how they work.... Reverse engineering.

Probably most accurate to say that we reversed engineered some of the messages on the car's can bus. The only 'tinkering' has been on that bus. The OVMS 'tinkerers' haven't gone near the firmware in the car itself (either VMS or VDS). Quite frankly, we haven't needed to. Think of it as trying to understand what is going on inside someone's brain by listening to what they say and hear, rather than opening up their skull.

I do suspect that others have gone deeper, and there has been and will be some serious tinkering going on - just not for the OVMS project

 

[Botbldr45]

Put me on the list for amber turn lights in back for all the stated reasons ....... And my previous rant!

 

[gg_got_a_tesla]

Now people have driven the Model S, any final word on the turn signals?

I some videos I saw the front and side signals to be amber, so we can be sure on that one. I never saw any rear turn signals.

Anybody noticed?

Rears are red.

 

[Grendal]

Did anyone notice that the white sedan at the rollout event had different lenses than the signature red sedans (or at least it looked that way to me)? Were they amber or smoked?

 

[BYT_P1837]

Lenses? You mean the front head lamps? All the cars should have the tech package and therefore all have the Xenon headlamps?

 

[Grendal]

Lenses? You mean the front head lamps? All the cars should have the tech package and therefore all have the Xenon headlamps?

Sorry. Probably used the wrong terminology. I meant the tail lights on the black and the white S given out at the ceremony looked like they had a different color than the Red. They looked smoked or amber.

 

[olanmills]

Sorry. Probably used the wrong terminology. I meant the tail lights on the black and the white S given out at the ceremony looked like they had a different color than the Red. They looked smoked or amber.

If you're talking about the white car that was on a sort of stage, it's an alpha. Seems wierd that they chose to put it on display, as a lot of the news articles included pictures of it with no mention that it was the alpha model. But yeah at least some versions of the alpha or beta had rear amber turn signals, for instance:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/future-cars/spy-photos/caught-testing-2012-tesla-model-s

For the record, I like red rear turn signals, simply because I think it looks better. I agree, amber turn signals are safer and make it easier to distinguish a turn signal from the brake light, but I think it looks nicer with red blinkers in the back. And since the model S has a very large upper brake light along the roof line, I don't think it's much of an issue.

 

[Stuart]

Really makes you wonder how often some drivers look at their instruments. Of course, in my roadster, I can't see them behind the steering wheel ;-)

I have the same problem in mine.

The Roadster turn signals don't seem to auto-cancel as well as other cars I've driven. And the clicker is too quiet to hear over the wind noise at freeway speeds. And the dashboard indicator lights are hidden out of sight behind the steering wheel.

All of which adds up to me feeling like an idiot when I realize I've been driving for who-knows-how-long with my turn signals blinking.