Belmont site up and running in WA. Limited to 70kw. A 150kw site upgrade might be a moot point with a 200A cable limit.
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Ampol AmpCharge network
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Chuq
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Well, they promised the first 5 sites would be done by the end of August, and they snuck in with a few days to spare!
So looks like Ampol are only installing 200 amp ABB chargers - Alexandria 200 amp, Northmead 200 amp and Belmont WA 200 amp.
Surely they would have known what they were getting as I assume ABB would have given them the rundown on options and the limitation of 200 amp unit.
Wonder if they would be upgradeable in the future?
It's great to have more chargers but poor form to hamper 95% of the current fleet that will use them.
Surely they would have known what they were getting as I assume ABB would have given them the rundown on options and the limitation of 200 amp unit.
Wonder if they would be upgradeable in the future?
It's great to have more chargers but poor form to hamper 95% of the current fleet that will use them.
Longer wait times = more reasons to check out the mini mart?
Indeed it does. Around 80kw but Teslas will be closer to 70kw with afterburners on.
AussieOwner
White M3 2021 LR
Any news on when the Altona North site will be live?Some details about the Ampol portion of the Arena network
Ampol launching EV charger network
Fuel company Ampol has detailed its Australian AmpCharge public EV charging network. BP is planning something similar.www.carexpert.com.au
* 120 DC chargers nationwide by October 2023.
* Five pilot sites by July 2022 in Carseldine (Queensland), Alexandria (NSW), Northmead (NSW), Altona North (Victoria), and Belmont (WA)
150kW in power and two EVs at the same time - so they are doing more than the min 50kW required by Arena funding (although it seems it's the usual CCS2/CHAdeMO combo)
From the pics in the article looks like a stall we haven't seen in Australia.
Nothing on pricing.
Also
Ampol pushes into EVs with "AmpCharge" charging network
Ampol unveils plan for electric vehicle fast-charging network "Ampcharge", starting with five pilot sites in mid-2022.thedriven.io
And Ampol have a website up
AmpCharge | EV Charging at Home, on the Road and for Business
Ampol is providing the power Australians need get you moving and keep you moving, with EV charging solutions at home, on the road and for business.ampcharge.ampol.com.au
FAQ suggests an AmpCharge app is Coming Soon, and also looks like they might roll out future chargers in slower and faster speeds.
Also seem likely to sell home chargers and business solutions.
Searching around looks like they may be Italian Amplitronic stalls, and from FB forums seems @Chuq agrees
RichardV
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AussieOwner
White M3 2021 LR
Chuq
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It's certainly a weird oversight. Two options:
1. They knew what they were doing, and didn't care - keeps their grid demand down, adheres to the requirements of the grant, possibly keeps people in the store longer to spend more on overpriced snacks.
2. They had no idea what they were doing and have made a big stuff-up.
Having a potential max speed of 150 kW was a good trade-off for only having 1x CCS and 1x Chademo. Seems like less of a good deal if it's only about half that speed.
The thing is that this is the worst arrangement in terms of grid demand. If they're on a demand tariff - and based on the ARENA lessons learned reports, that seems likely especially in the Ausgrid area - then you want your average demand to be as close to your maximum demand as you can, so that the demand tariff is amortised over as much consumption as possible.
At least Ampol are leading the way compared to their peers. There's a brand new from the ground up BP servo in Colac, VIC. Not a charger in site. That's not an issue for us Tesla owners, but the nearest non-Tesla fast charger is 90 minutes away. Many people are saying SAD.
Chuq
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That would have been the next spec up (HYC-300). The ones in their original plans were HYC-150 (only two cables).
400V Car would be limited to around 100kw
It's purely used to gain access to Arena Funding.
They know its dying and have designed the chargers with the ability to switch out to CCS2
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Discussion regarding the CHADEMO charging standard in Australia moved to its own unique thread. The future of CHADEMO in Australia
Discussion regarding the CHADEMO charging standard in Australia moved to its own unique thread. The future of CHADEMO in Australia
Yes and a Hyundai Ioniq 5 with its 800 volt architecture tops out at 160 for a brief moment at low SOC, confirmed by a checkin on plugshare.
