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Annoying to Full Press Break to Avoid Rolling?

Travelhead

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Aug 3, 2019
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So I got delivery of my Model S in Colorado and found it quite annoying to always have to jam the break really hard to avoid rolling forward and backward on hills when I’m at a stop.

Now, I’m back in FL and we have no hills but I notice the car is still slowly rolling forwards and backwards on minor incline/declines.

I don’t understand why there’s isn’t a software option so that when I’m stopped it comes to a full stop without rolling without having to jam the break down all the way?

Anyone else find this annoying?
 

Travelhead

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Aug 3, 2019
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Odd - I always hit the brake hard enough to get the brake hold to engage. It's actually one of my favorite features of the car.

Do you have the "Creep" feature turned on?

Creep is off.

I have a 2019 Model S Performance Raven.

To engage the full stop break I must press the break about 95% to the floor.
 

Shibiwan

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Jul 22, 2019
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Arizona
That's odd. I can get the "hold" brake to come on when my car stops (manually) and I tap the brake pedal a 2nd time. At that point I can toggle hold on and off at that point by simply tapping the pedal as long as it is stationary.
 
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Saxgod

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May 3, 2019
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dont feel alone, this has bugged me as well. I wouldn't say jamming the brake down, but when you roll to a stop using regenerative braking it seems like you have to go out of your way to press the brake down to keep from rolling backwards or forwards. I get it. Never enough to complain about but enough to wish it would hold automatically.
 
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MD_M_S

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Aug 29, 2019
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You need to double tap the brake once you come to a complete stop. This engages the hold feature. Then you just have to let go of the brake entirely. Once you are ready to go again, just press on the gas pedal and to drive. The hold feature automatically disengages when the accelerator is pressed.
 

jgs

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Huh, there must be substantial variability between cars I guess. Moderate pressure is enough to engage hold on my early 2015 Model S. I had a loaner of similar vintage recently that required much more pressure for similar braking.
 

Zishan

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Jan 28, 2019
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I can make mine hold at a stop fairly easily. All I do is press the brake slightly until the "hold" symbol appears on the dash, then I can let go and rest my foot where I please.

Is the issue the angle/slope is so great that the car won't hold, unless you press much harder?



Mine is a 2016.5 P90DL (for comparison)
 

boaterva

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Never had a problem on either of our cars. I’d show how yours works either to another Tesla owner or to the SC next time you are in for something and see if it’s not normal.
 

David29

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Someone in another thread said that it is a matter of time, not pressure -- hold it for a few seconds, watch for the indicator. But here is what the owner's manual says:
When driving on a hill or on a flat surface, brake as you normally would. After coming to a
complete stop, simply press the brake pedal again (until the instrument panel displays the
Vehicle Hold indicator light) to enable Vehicle Hold. You can then release the brake pedal
and remain stopped, even on a hill.

That sounds like two presses, but I rarely do that. i mostly just hold it, i think. (It has become so automatic that i am not 100% sure!)
 

boaterva

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Someone in another thread said that it is a matter of time, not pressure -- hold it for a few seconds, watch for the indicator. But here is what the owner's manual says:
When driving on a hill or on a flat surface, brake as you normally would. After coming to a
complete stop, simply press the brake pedal again (until the instrument panel displays the
Vehicle Hold indicator light) to enable Vehicle Hold. You can then release the brake pedal
and remain stopped, even on a hill.

That sounds like two presses, but I rarely do that. i mostly just hold it, i think. (It has become so automatic that i am not 100% sure!)
Yeah I can’t tell you either now I think of it. Have to test to be sure it needs an ‘off and on’ to set it or not.
 

Simon_Emes

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Sep 25, 2019
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In my own S it is like it was in my GLE Benz, same easy double tap on the brake or stronger single tap.

In the loaner I'm driving now it requires much more force, downright annoying. So there seems to be a lot of variability, hope you can get it set to engage much easier, as it should!
 

ewoodrick

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Apr 13, 2018
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So I got delivery of my Model S in Colorado and found it quite annoying to always have to jam the break really hard to avoid rolling forward and backward on hills when I’m at a stop.

Now, I’m back in FL and we have no hills but I notice the car is still slowly rolling forwards and backwards on minor incline/declines.

I don’t understand why there’s isn’t a software option so that when I’m stopped it comes to a full stop without rolling without having to jam the break down all the way?

Anyone else find this annoying?
Tesla DOES NOT implement one-pedal driving.

Turning creep off and pretending that you are using one pedal driving is a little dangerous, as when stopped, it's easy to accidentally roll and when hit, nothing stops you from rolling into the intersection.

Elon has mentioned something about it, but it isn't here.

The Nissan Leaf does implement true one-pedal driving. But even then, there are times when you have to use the brake.
 
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_jal_

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Both my retired 2016 and 2019 MS work the same way: come to a stop via regen / brake, then a quick release and tap to engage Hold. It’s like a confirmation you want to Hold
 

Lectric_Agent

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May 25, 2019
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On my 2015 MS I don’t have to release and press the pedal again. When I come to a complete stop, with my foot still on the pedal I simply press down harder and it goes into hold mode. No need to release first

And you brake, not break lol!
 
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Mediocrates

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On my 2015 MS I don’t have to release and press the pedal again. When I come to a complete stop, with my foot still on the pedal I simply press down harder and it goes into hold mode. No need to release first

And you brake, not break lol!

Same experience here on two Model S (2017 and 2019). I can keep my foot on the brake at a red light and never have it engage Hold Mode unless I push harder on the pedal.
 

Lectric_Agent

2015 S85 AP1
May 25, 2019
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Orange County
Same experience here on two Model S (2017 and 2019). I can keep my foot on the brake at a red light and never have it engage Hold Mode unless I push harder on the pedal.

This confirms what I was talking about, but what I was really trying to clarify in my post is that you don’t need to release the pedal and press it again in order engage hold mode.
 

whitex

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Sep 30, 2015
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4 MS so far. they all engaged hill brake when pressed harder (definitely not 95%), or when stopping on a slope. As for the latter, it seems to happen automatically, but maybe I just naturally press the brake harder when stopping on a slope. I've always had creep on.
 
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BPeter

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I don't have to press mine anywhere near a full press to engage hold mode. Once I'm at a stop, if I press it down maybe half way and hold it for 1-2 seconds it will engage hold mode.
 
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