Any Model Y with new projector headlights in the USA?

[Mrbrock]

Well, I wouldn’t say I know a lot about supply chain, but it feels to me like Tesla not switching the MYLR headlights and producing them specifically for MYLR goes against their typical part re use policy between the 3 and Y. I’d imagine it would be cheaper and easier to have 1 headlight for all their cars.Also if this is true why would they bother to put them in the MYP? They don’t export any MYP either.

Because it’s a premium car and they wanted to see if the lights would drive people to buy it? Because they needed to see what it would cost to change over and it’s easier to do on the smallest production MY model with highest margin. There wasn’t enough demand so not worth it to switch LR over. At best guess the Matrix lights cost Tesla at least $100 more each (they charge 5x for replacement I believe). $200 per car times 200,000 per year is $40mil per year extra cost.

 

[Maxters]

Well, I wouldn’t say I know a lot about supply chain, but it feels to me like Tesla not switching the MYLR headlights and producing them specifically for MYLR goes against their typical part re use policy between the 3 and Y. I’d imagine it would be cheaper and easier to have 1 headlight for all their cars.Also if this is true why would they bother to put them in the MYP? They don’t export any MYP either.

So MYP is going to be made out of the GigiTexas, all the cars made out of there I hear will have the new headlights. (and batteries if interested).

Fremont will maintain MYLR and Standard for US market.

It's cheaper to use the US headlights, and since there is no confusion with them going out of the country they use them.

 

[angus[Y]oung]

So MYP is going to be made out of the GigiTexas, all the cars made out of there I hear will have the new headlights. (and batteries if interested).

@Maxters FYI, Elon hinted that Giga Texas and/or Giga Berlin could launch initially with the 2170 battery packs rather than the 4680s. Most speculation is that this will be the case.

 

[Maxters]

@Maxters FYI, Elon hinted that Giga Texas and/or Giga Berlin could launch initially with the 2170 battery packs rather than the 4680s. Most speculation is that this will be the case.

Also interesting that fremont got some LFP batteries for the SR+, I think they are trying to take some of the orders for the long range since the range is only about 10 miles..

I think they are changing their tactics due to battery and chip supply and timing.

At this point everything is about supply and cost, as for the headlights, I like the ones on the US destined LR.
Who knows if they'd put the matrix lights in the LR if the cost came down. I'd think it's a feature upgrade (perceived) that makes the Performance better?

 

[BMWY]

@Maxters FYI, Elon hinted that Giga Texas and/or Giga Berlin could launch initially with the 2170 battery packs rather than the 4680s. Most speculation is that this will be the case.

There are already test mules rolling around Texas with the 4680s...

Not saying it can't happen, but I'd be shocked if the initial cars off that line aren't 4680 equipped.

 

[Wolfhausen]

Testing and full scale production are two different animals. Tesla will have to rectify the challenges they have with mass production of the new cells before they roll out in any capacity. That said, even when Austin begins shipping cars with the new battery, Fremont will still be producing the current cells and your order may be filled from that plant. More so if you are on the west coast. Personally, I just want my car. If major upgrades that I can not live without are implemented down the road, I'll upgrade, but not until they have been in circulation for at least a year to get the bugs out.

 

[Mrbrock]

So MYP is going to be made out of the GigiTexas, all the cars made out of there I hear will have the new headlights. (and batteries if interested).

Fremont will maintain MYLR and Standard for US market.

It's cheaper to use the US headlights, and since there is no confusion with them going out of the country they use them.

The preproduction models of MY from TeSAs have US headlights. No reason to stock a facility and test with old parts if they won’t be used in actual production. There is a picture on Twitter that has been posted in the Texas factory thread proving this. Sorry to bust the bubble so soon on all cars from Texas having new headlights. And as far as anyone can tell, there are no new SR Y orders being taken so there shouldn’t be any production of those happening. And if they are only making LR Y in Fremont, what else will be made in Texas? Surely not just MYP?

 

[Arkbird]

The preproduction models of MY from TeSAs have US headlights. No reason to stock a facility and test with old parts if they won’t be used in actual production. There is a picture on Twitter that has been posted in the Texas factory thread proving this. Sorry to bust the bubble so soon on all cars from Texas having new headlights. And as far as anyone can tell, there are no new SR Y orders being taken so there shouldn’t be any production of those happening. And if they are only making LR Y in Fremont, what else will be made in Texas? Surely not just MYP?

Are we sure it has the US headlights? I was zooming in on the picture and it kind of looks like it has the global headlights. The corner of the headlight almost looks like it has the projector in it.

 

[Arkbird]

The preproduction models of MY from TeSAs have US headlights. No reason to stock a facility and test with old parts if they won’t be used in actual production. There is a picture on Twitter that has been posted in the Texas factory thread proving this. Sorry to bust the bubble so soon on all cars from Texas having new headlights. And as far as anyone can tell, there are no new SR Y orders being taken so there shouldn’t be any production of those happening. And if they are only making LR Y in Fremont, what else will be made in Texas? Surely not just MYP?

This part that I circled really looks like a projector in the headlight housing.

 

[Undisclosed]

This part that I circled really looks like a projector in the headlight housing.

The new headlights don't have as many reflectors as in that picture and is darker when you look at it.

 

[Arkbird]

The new headlights don't have as many reflectors as in that picture and is darker when you look at it.

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Ahh good to know. Looks like they'll keep the standard lights on the LR for now.

 

[Platini]

Here is a review of the Made in China model Y headlights from Norway.

Interesting that they are matrix headlights, but Tesla has not yet implemented the adaptive features, even for Europe.

 

[Maxters]

Here is a review of the Made in China model Y headlights from Norway.

Interesting that they are matrix headlights, but Tesla has not yet implemented the adaptive features, even for Europe.

I wish There is a side by side comparison.

I want to see how much dimmer the matrix lights are compared to the ones we have.

 

[Undisclosed]

I wish There is a side by side comparison.

I want to see how much dimmer the matrix lights are compared to the ones we have.

New Matrix projector LED vs "old" reflector LED headlights comparison on US cars

Ok guys here they are! I've been contemplating whether I should get a Model Y Performance vs a Y LR. Luckily I was able to secure an overnight YP with the new matrix projector loaner this weekend. I already have a model 3 with the "old" LED and a buddy down the street happens to own a YP with...

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[MikeHawk]

The matrix headlights are global spec. They are legal in every country. However to meet this they are dimmer and use matrix to focus light better to appear brighter. Original US spec lights are still better and cheaper and why they will always be used in the US since no MY are exported from US.

There is no surplus. They are a current part and will continue to be produced and used in LR MY in the US. Zero reason for Tesla to switch. Millions ($) reasons to not switch.

This is bad news, I'm holding out to order, waiting on MYLR to get the new headlights before I take the plunge. I would pay extra $$ for the new headlights, wish that was an option.

 

[osunick]

This is bad news, I'm holding out to order, waiting on MYLR to get the new headlights before I take the plunge. I would pay extra $$ for the new headlights, wish that was an option.

If you don’t need 7 seats, you can indeed pay money to get the lights on your MYP.

 

[CRIMSON_DATE]

I was about to get the YP but I can't get past those 21' tires . I can't deal with $1300 ever 20k and they won't change them to 19's so I just ordered the LR. I got 6 months, maybe I get lucky with the headlights.

 

[Mrbrock]

I was about to get the YP but I can't get past those 21' tires . I can't deal with $1300 ever 20k and they won't change them to 19's so I just ordered the LR. I got 6 months, maybe I get lucky with the headlights.

Tesla won’t but you can buy your own wheels. Maybe even swap with someone for Gemini’s who wants 21s

 

[Level 1]

Testing and full scale production are two different animals. Tesla will have to rectify the challenges they have with mass production of the new cells before they roll out in any capacity.

Keep in mind that the factory isn't going to instantly be at full production capacity when it opens...

It's entirely possible for the Austin cars to start with 4680 packs, *and* for the battery production to be limited, at the same time. Full-scale 4680 production isn't necessarily a requirement for limited production of 4680-based cars.

 

[hchu0304]

Update: found a local shop that has the headlight update software. Will stop by tomorrow to test. If this works, I can ask them about remote coding/update