Cottonwood
Roadster#433, Model S#S37
I have driven an early Sig P85, entering the fourth winter, and a P85D entering the second winter.
The short answer is that the RWD P85 on good snow tires, first Nokian Hakka 7's and then Nokian Hakka R2's does well in winter snowy conditions, but the P85D on Nokian Hakka R2's is the best handling car that I have ever driven in winter snowy conditions. In the P85D on the Hakkas, it was just plain fun to go drive last Tuesday in that moderate 10" snow storm we got in the Boulder-Denver area.
My Driveway in Pagosa Springs is an acid test for winter driving. The P85 with Hakka 7's did well, but driver skill also helped. The P85D with Hakka R2's just makes it look easy.
P85 with Hakka 7's:
P85D with Hakka R2's:
Here are a couple of links from my earlier postings on the subject:
The short answer is that the RWD P85 on good snow tires, first Nokian Hakka 7's and then Nokian Hakka R2's does well in winter snowy conditions, but the P85D on Nokian Hakka R2's is the best handling car that I have ever driven in winter snowy conditions. In the P85D on the Hakkas, it was just plain fun to go drive last Tuesday in that moderate 10" snow storm we got in the Boulder-Denver area.
My Driveway in Pagosa Springs is an acid test for winter driving. The P85 with Hakka 7's did well, but driver skill also helped. The P85D with Hakka R2's just makes it look easy.
P85 with Hakka 7's:
P85D with Hakka R2's:
Here are a couple of links from my earlier postings on the subject:
- Nokian Hakkapeliitta R2 Snow Tire Report - Page 7 — Compares the P85 to the P85D with both on Hakka tires. The P85D starts better, but both stop about the same.
- Nokian Hakkapeliitta R2 Snow Tire Report - Page 6 — Compares all-season Michelin Primacy tires to Hakka R2's on the P85D. On packed powder, the all-seasons did 0.2 to 0.3 g's and the snow tires did a solid 0.4 g's comfortably. That is almost 2x the starting and stoping power for the snow tires.
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