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Any way to determine latest car location?

CZguy

Member
Jul 16, 2015
20
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Prague, Czech Republic
Guys,

I live in area where mobile signal is not always given. As other folks drive my car too, sometimes I would like to check the latest location or state of charge of the car.

I think the car actually maintains contact with Tesla servers while online. Would it be anyhow possible to access the location or state of charge how it was latest seen online?
 

S4WRXTTCS

Well-Known Member
May 3, 2015
5,538
6,290
Snohomish, WA
Does the app really do that? Where it reports the last known location of the car, and the state of everything before the mobile signal dropped out?

For that to work the car would have to report it's position to Tesla's server as you were driving. I don't believe the car reports the position to Tesla's servers as your driving. This would be a pretty huge invasiveness of privacy if the Tesla Headquarters were tracking real time movements of all the Tesla's it could connect to.

If I needed to do that I would use something like visibletesla or some other third party app that would do that. Where the third party app would ping the Tesla's servers to check position/charge every X minutes or so.
 

apacheguy

S Sig #255
Oct 21, 2012
5,085
1,246
So Cal
My app does that. It pings the API on 30 min increments and stores SOC and location data. I never have to wake my car if I just want to know these variables. Called Tesla Mobile. You need a webserver as it is in PHP.
 

msnow

Active Member
Jul 14, 2015
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2,236
SoCal
I believe the way it works is the app connects to the Tesla infrastructure which then connects to the car.
 

HankLloydRight

No Roads
Jan 18, 2014
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11,032
Connecticut
For that to work the car would have to report it's position to Tesla's server as you were driving. I don't believe the car reports the position to Tesla's servers as your driving. This would be a pretty huge invasiveness of privacy if the Tesla Headquarters were tracking real time movements of all the Tesla's it could connect to.
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In fact that's exactly what it does. Just open up the mobile app to the map page and watch your car move in almost real time. The app is getting that info from the Tesla servers, not the car. There is no direct connection between the app and the car.
 

FlasherZ

Sig Model S + Sig Model X + Model 3 Resv
Jun 21, 2012
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Does the app really do that? Where it reports the last known location of the car, and the state of everything before the mobile signal dropped out?

For that to work the car would have to report it's position to Tesla's server as you were driving. I don't believe the car reports the position to Tesla's servers as your driving. This would be a pretty huge invasiveness of privacy if the Tesla Headquarters were tracking real time movements of all the Tesla's it could connect to.

If I needed to do that I would use something like visibletesla or some other third party app that would do that. Where the third party app would ping the Tesla's servers to check position/charge every X minutes or so.

Indeed it does, every 250 msec the car updates Tesla. The apps (official or unofficial) connect to Tesla and gather that data.
 

sandpiper

Active Member
Sep 25, 2014
2,833
2,141
Ontario, Canada
In fact that's exactly what it does. Just open up the mobile app to the map page and watch your car move in almost real time. The app is getting that info from the Tesla servers, not the car. There is no direct connection between the app and the car.

Yep... and it also reports current speed and power draw. And you can also remotely honk the horn and slightly open the sunroof while somebody drives. It's pretty entertaining the first time that your SO borrows the car and it starts doing odd things on her. Yes, immature, but entertaining nonetheless!

If you're concerned about privacy, you can turn tracking off in the car via the touchscreen menus.
 

David99

Active Member
Jan 31, 2014
4,850
7,026
Brea, Orange County
Guys,

I live in area where mobile signal is not always given. As other folks drive my car too, sometimes I would like to check the latest location or state of charge of the car.

I think the car actually maintains contact with Tesla servers while online. Would it be anyhow possible to access the location or state of charge how it was latest seen online?

Try VisibleTesla It tracks and logs everything for you.
 

FlasherZ

Sig Model S + Sig Model X + Model 3 Resv
Jun 21, 2012
7,028
1,014
Yep... and it also reports current speed and power draw. And you can also remotely honk the horn and slightly open the sunroof while somebody drives. It's pretty entertaining the first time that your SO borrows the car and it starts doing odd things on her. Yes, immature, but entertaining nonetheless!

If you're concerned about privacy, you can turn tracking off in the car via the touchscreen menus.

Just as a point of clarification - horn-honking and light flashing cannot be performed while the car is being driven. You can, however, close the sunroof and/or vent it while the car is in operation (my son found my wife's phone and decided to have fun playing with "dada's car").
 

sandpiper

Active Member
Sep 25, 2014
2,833
2,141
Ontario, Canada
Just as a point of clarification - horn-honking and light flashing cannot be performed while the car is being driven. You can, however, close the sunroof and/or vent it while the car is in operation (my son found my wife's phone and decided to have fun playing with "dada's car").

You're right! Oops. No horn.
 

CZguy

Member
Jul 16, 2015
20
-1
Prague, Czech Republic
Try VisibleTesla It tracks and logs everything for you.

Well but that should be running in the background and also I should be on my pc. I installed ios Remote Tesla app and it does track the vehicle, but it must run in the background and provides no SOC history. What I am looking for is really to get the latest location and SOC without having anything run in the background. Just on demand.
 

msnow

Active Member
Jul 14, 2015
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SoCal
Well but that should be running in the background and also I should be on my pc. I installed ios Remote Tesla app and it does track the vehicle, but it must run in the background and provides no SOC history. What I am looking for is really to get the latest location and SOC without having anything run in the background. Just on demand.

Ok but this is a different ask from your OP. There you asked for "latest" which the apps can do but "history" is a different thing. BTW Remote S "breadcrumbs" feature may give you some history but I'm not 100% sure.
 

CZguy

Member
Jul 16, 2015
20
-1
Prague, Czech Republic
Ok but this is a different ask from your OP. There you asked for "latest" which the apps can do but "history" is a different thing. BTW Remote S "breadcrumbs" feature may give you some history but I'm not 100% sure.

"Latest" would be fine, but neither ios app will tell me that unless run in the background.
Concluding: unless I can place a PHP code on a server there's no way, huh?
 

HankLloydRight

No Roads
Jan 18, 2014
12,997
11,032
Connecticut
Visible Tesla will do it. Yes, it needs to run in the background. Do you have an old desktop or notebook computer you can just set up and let it run VT? You could also set up a virtual machine "in the cloud" somewhere to run VT which you could then access from anywhere, and it wouldn't require a machine of your own (although there would be a monthly cost associated with that).
 

msnow

Active Member
Jul 14, 2015
4,951
2,236
SoCal
I'm not sure you are right that the iOS app has to always run in the background. GPS location defaults to "While using the app" and if you don't care about Calendar Sync you can turn off "Background App Refresh".
 

HankLloydRight

No Roads
Jan 18, 2014
12,997
11,032
Connecticut
I'm not sure you are right that the iOS app has to always run in the background. GPS location defaults to "While using the app" and if you don't care about Calendar Sync you can turn off "Background App Refresh".

But I think if the car is out of cell range, the app won't open to display location or SOC.

The OP wants "last known location/SOC".
 

apacheguy

S Sig #255
Oct 21, 2012
5,085
1,246
So Cal
Visible Tesla will do it. Yes, it needs to run in the background. Do you have an old desktop or notebook computer you can just set up and let it run VT? You could also set up a virtual machine "in the cloud" somewhere to run VT which you could then access from anywhere, and it wouldn't require a machine of your own (although there would be a monthly cost associated with that).

Problem with VT is it requires a PC and the data cannot easily be retrieved from a web browser (Tesla browser, iPhone, etc). This is a major inconvenience to always have to access your home PC in order to retrieve info. That why I wrote my app, but yes unfortunately you do need a webserver and you must have some experience.
 

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