Any way to get safely on 4 jack stands?

[TypeRx]

There's enough clearance - especially since the side you just raised is still airborne. Not only that - but the passenger-side of the car is now a little "de-compressed" and you can comfortably slide the jack + Rennstand into either end on the other side. Maybe this story will change once I finally get around to installing my MPP coilovers, but for now, it's no problem on the standard suspension.

I really need to start getting some videos together for you guys... it's on my list, but I've been busy quarantine-drinking.

Okay, let's play this out (since I haven't put the car up on 4 jackstands). Now, we have the car up on 4 stands using what you suggest above. Now, how do you get it down without using a non-specified jacking point? Easy, you can't. Its a problem. You need to use parts of the suspension for this purpose. Tesla should have put a front and rear jack pad on. I guess they really don't want people without lifts to work on these cars though

 

[Dolemite]

@Daniellane @Mako3 @jkoya @Firehuntah

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[Daniellane]

@Daniellane @Mako3 @jkoya @Firehuntah

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Thanks

 

[jkoya]

Materials in the description if tl;dw:

Thanks for sharing !!

 

[Daniellane]

@Daniellane @Mako3 @jkoya @Firehuntah

Materials in the description if tl;dw:

I did a bit of product research for those who may wish to order these items to be delivered rather than going to a store.

From Lowe’s:

4-Pack 3/4-in Black Plastic Hi Tip https://www.lowes.com/pd/SoftTouch-4-Pack-3-4-in-Black-Plastic-Hi-Tip/1000372631

2-1/4-in Rubber Washer https://www.lowes.com/pd/Hillman-2-1-4-in-Rubber-Washer/3024766

Similar Items from Amazon (higher cost)

Danco 61273 2-1/4" OD x 3/4" ID x 1/8" Wall, Rubber Faucet Washer, 1 per Bag https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000DZKZDY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_FJoNEb5EA1J2R

The Hillman Group The Hillman Group 4329 3/4 ID x 2-1/4 OD x 1/8 in. Large Neoprene Washer (6-Pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IAVHHM0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_2KoNEb7EB2S67

Prescott Plastics 3/4 Inch Round Black Vinyl End Cap, Flexible Pipe Post Rubber Cover (10) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QVZ11PG/

 

[jkoya]

I did a bit of product research for those who may wish to order these items to be delivered rather than going to a store.

Thanks for the research - much appreciated !!

 

[P3dStealth]

Safe jack is over priced. You could just buy four jacks for cheaper. In the teslarati demo video they are using a $59 harbor freight Jack to setup a $159 jack stand. Don't buy it for that rediculous price.

1.5 Ton Aluminum Rapid Pump® Racing Floor Jack

Source 6 Ton Mobile Home Adjustable Safe Jack Stand,Car lift Jack Stands on m.alibaba.com

Safety Jack Stand 3 ton Jackstand Jack Automatic Lift | eBay

Tesla Vehicle Safety 6 ton Jack Stand Jackstand Jack Automatic Lift | eBay

 

[Dolemite]

I did a bit of product research for those who may wish to order these items to be delivered rather than going to a store.

From Lowe’s:

4-Pack 3/4-in Black Plastic Hi Tip https://www.lowes.com/pd/SoftTouch-4-Pack-3-4-in-Black-Plastic-Hi-Tip/1000372631

2-1/4-in Rubber Washer https://www.lowes.com/pd/Hillman-2-1-4-in-Rubber-Washer/3024766

Similar Items from Amazon (higher cost)

Danco 61273 2-1/4" OD x 3/4" ID x 1/8" Wall, Rubber Faucet Washer, 1 per Bag https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000DZKZDY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_FJoNEb5EA1J2R

The Hillman Group The Hillman Group 4329 3/4 ID x 2-1/4 OD x 1/8 in. Large Neoprene Washer (6-Pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IAVHHM0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_2KoNEb7EB2S67

Prescott Plastics 3/4 Inch Round Black Vinyl End Cap, Flexible Pipe Post Rubber Cover (10) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QVZ11PG/

Thanks. What I was *really* looking for was a set of tall nylon spacers that are 0.75" ID and 1" OD... doesn't seem to exist.

 

[Daniellane]

Thanks. What I was *really* looking for was a set of tall nylon spacers that are 0.75" ID and 1" OD... doesn't seem to exist.

Found this listing for nylon fender washers as well. Big variety of sizes.

Nylon 6/6 Flat Washer, Plain Finish, Off-White, 3/4" Hole Size, 0.81" ID, 2" OD, 0.1" Nominal Thickness (Pack of 5) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009OLRIWO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_LtrNEbSECG511

 

[Firehuntah]

@Daniellane @Mako3 @jkoya @Firehuntah

Materials in the description if tl;dw:

Thanks, very helpful. Think I'll make mine like that as well now.

 

[Daniellane]

Thanks, very helpful. Think I'll make mine like that as well now.

Me too

 

[katie3]

Safe jack is over priced. You could just buy four jacks for cheaper. In the teslarati demo video they are using a $59 harbor freight Jack to setup a $159 jack stand. Don't buy it for that rediculous price.

1.5 Ton Aluminum Rapid Pump® Racing Floor Jack

Source 6 Ton Mobile Home Adjustable Safe Jack Stand,Car lift Jack Stands on m.alibaba.com

Safety Jack Stand 3 ton Jackstand Jack Automatic Lift | eBay

Tesla Vehicle Safety 6 ton Jack Stand Jackstand Jack Automatic Lift | eBay

Late reply, do you have first hand experience with these jackstands? Can you just put a standard rubber Model 3 jack pad on it? Thx.

 

[Daniellane]

Late reply, do you have first hand experience with these jackstands? Can you just put a standard rubber Model 3 jack pad on it? Thx.

FYI,
(PSA)
Received this recall email from Harbor Freight tools yesterday...

 

[katie3]

Thx, none of those stands are the ones recommended by P3dStealth.

 

[austinY]

so i just had to do this to paint my calipers and weighed the idea of the quick jack vs jackstands. i went with 2 safejacksand 2 ksco flat jackstands.

my car is lowered so even with my low profile jack, i cant fit the jack and jackpad let alone the jack and safejack piece. i keep 4 10" sections of 2x10s in the garage and drive up on it to get the floor jack and safe jacks under the rear jack point.

next i jack the rear up high enough to get the ksco flat jackstand & puck under the front, add the safe jack feet and one side is done. repeat on the other side being VERY cognizant that when raising and lowering the 2nd side of the car that things may have shifted on the first side. (i1telsa points this out in his video too)

reverse the order when done
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Burrito- after reading everyone suggestions, I think your approach is the best mix of realistic cost and safety. However I'm not only having trouble finding the ESCO flat top stands (amazon says out of stock until AUG), but even the Rennstands are backordered. If I break down and grab the red "tesla rennstands" (assuming in stock), would you trust these? https://www.amazon.com/Torin-Big-Aluminum-Jack-Stands/dp/B0007XTGCI/ or do you know of any other quality stands with a flat top? These Torins get good reviews, but would you trust the tops of these against a jack puck? Thanks!

 

[Dolemite]

Burrito- after reading everyone suggestions, I think your approach is the best mix of realistic cost and safety. However I'm not only having trouble finding the ESCO flat top stands (amazon says out of stock until AUG), but even the Rennstands are backordered. If I break down and grab the red "tesla rennstands" (assuming in stock), would you trust these? https://www.amazon.com/Torin-Big-Aluminum-Jack-Stands/dp/B0007XTGCI/ or do you know of any other quality stands with a flat top? These Torins get good reviews, but would you trust the tops of these against a jack puck? Thanks!

Too lazy to go back & read exactly what your intention is with these - but I've heard through the grapevine some S2000 kid got killed using those a number of years ago. I think the car toppled over - those bases are uncomfortably narrow IMO.

BTW I'm planning on selling my Rennstands soon - will try to remember to let you guys know if I post a thread in Classifieds.

 

[Brian N]

@Daniellane @Mako3 @jkoya @Firehuntah

Materials in the description if tl;dw:

I did a bit of product research for those who may wish to order these items to be delivered rather than going to a store.

From Lowe’s:

4-Pack 3/4-in Black Plastic Hi Tip https://www.lowes.com/pd/SoftTouch-4-Pack-3-4-in-Black-Plastic-Hi-Tip/1000372631

2-1/4-in Rubber Washer https://www.lowes.com/pd/Hillman-2-1-4-in-Rubber-Washer/3024766

Similar Items from Amazon (higher cost)

Danco 61273 2-1/4" OD x 3/4" ID x 1/8" Wall, Rubber Faucet Washer, 1 per Bag https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000DZKZDY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_FJoNEb5EA1J2R

The Hillman Group The Hillman Group 4329 3/4 ID x 2-1/4 OD x 1/8 in. Large Neoprene Washer (6-Pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IAVHHM0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_2KoNEb7EB2S67

Prescott Plastics 3/4 Inch Round Black Vinyl End Cap, Flexible Pipe Post Rubber Cover (10) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QVZ11PG/

Hey @Dolemite did you take down the video? Pretty cool idea to mod the rennstands. I think I might do these to mine as well. Also the picture describing the problem in your first post is broken.

@Daniellane did you ever mod yours? How do you like it after?

Too lazy to go back & read exactly what your intention is with these - but I've heard through the grapevine some S2000 kid got killed using those a number of years ago. I think the car toppled over - those bases are uncomfortably narrow IMO.

BTW I'm planning on selling my Rennstands soon - will try to remember to let you guys know if I post a thread in Classifieds.

@Dolemite Just curious what are your replacements going to be?

 

[Daniellane]

Hey @Dolemite did you take down the video? Pretty cool idea to mod the rennstands. I think I might do these to mine as well. Also the picture describing the problem in your first post is broken.

@Daniellane did you ever mod yours? How do you like it after?



@Dolemite Just curious what are your replacements going to be?

never got around to it. Busy with other projects. Here’s one of them — check it out.

Tesla Automatic Tire Inflation

and this update...
Tesla Automatic Tire Inflation UPDATE - Deflation Demo

 

[Dolemite]

Hey @Dolemite did you take down the video? Pretty cool idea to mod the rennstands. I think I might do these to mine as well. Also the picture describing the problem in your first post is broken.

Yeah - my solution didn't end up being as resilient as I'd like, so I took it down. I don't want to tell people to do stuff that sucks. It's still effective, but not good enough. In regards to the images - my imgur account got all hosed up, but my post still makes the point w/ the videos.

Hey @Dolemite Just curious what are your replacements going to be?

For someone who dicks around with cars as much as I do, it might make sense to invest in a QuickJack system. I just hate how bulky it is... basically instead of having a jack + some jack stands, now I'll have to have a massive system with massive 80-pound thingies PLUS my huge floor jack taking up space. I'm still a bit on the fence about it, but if anyone's interested... feel free to PM me.

 

[4hs93lsi2]

***A word of caution about the Rennstands by Safe Jacks***

I'd made a thread about this a while ago, but it was pointlessly merged & disappeared into another thread, so few people ever saw it.

Even used correctly (I've verified this with the owner of the company... and I've been messing with cars for 20+ years), these are highly likely to end up denting your jack points *a little bit.* I don't like it because I'm anal, but objectively, I don't think it's a big deal because function isn't impaired and it doesn't appear to be getting worse. (Also, aluminum is "work hardened" after it's bent - hopefully someone smarter than me can chime in on this.)

He told me a few months ago he's "working on a solution" on this, but have yet to hear anything and haven't followed-up (yet) because small companies are freaking the F out at the moment.

Here's what I'm talking about:

Note I've intentionally made the lighting make it look worse to illustrate my point.

My case doesn't appear to be unique - you can see the same thing at

5:18 here:

And 3:13 here:

In any case, I'm working on a solution of my own to ensure I prevent any further deformation and I'll probably make a thread about what I've come up with. Hopefully it doesn't get buried into some 900-page thread about jack points.

I still prefer to use these over something like the QuickJack system, which seems to be a cumbersome PITA for someone who's not lifting cars on a daily or even weekly basis. I just wish the TM3 jack points were a little bit tougher...

Yeah I’ll echo that these jack stands put your car in extreme angles with the jack points, especially if your car is lowered. My car’s points are bent up, and the rennstand tesla jack point adapters are bent up too. I also didn’t feel safe with the teetering of the car while lowering or raising. I swapped to a QuickJack: 5000EXT. 5000EXT was lightest in my situation, but still 90-100lbs per side. Too bad it won’t be rated for cybertruck, but I’ll probably just keep that stock.