Anybody else get the feeling we'll hear about more than the Model Y on the 14th?

[CjRichMar]

I think we're going to get an announcement about a refresh of the Model S and X along with the capacity to use V3 Superchargers at the Model Y reveal. Here's the thin evidence I'm stringing together to make this prediction:

- Last year, Electrek shared "leaked documents" about the updated interior of the Model X and S, tentatively planned for mid-2019

- Tesla recently reduced the price and options of the current models, something they've historically done when they wanted an uptick in sales before something new came along.

- Supercharger V3 is being unveiled today, seemingly only for use with the Model 3. Back when the 3 released, Elon said something along the lines of "the 3 will never be seen as an upgrade to the S or X". Introducing a new, faster charging standard that only the cheapest vehicle in the line-up can use looks to me like a major, exclusive upgrade

- Tesla did the same thing last year with the Semi reveal

- This is a little more shortsighted, but it may help distract from the negative publicity that's come with closing stores and slashing prices.

What does everyone else think?

 

[unbelievable]

Well, I just posted something almost identical in the S thread so we must be right! I only found your post because I was checking I'd spelled Electrek correctly. Great minds thing alike. Or delusional, time will tell.

 

[CyberShy]

I expect Nothing concrete about other products except vague “in two years”, “next year”, and “in the future”, or “soon”, but that’s just my guess.

I base it on my detailed understanding of nothing.

 

[Lunares]

I think a refreshed model S/X is highly possible. Since it seems like the new supercharger event tonight says it is only model 3 compatible, feel like they need a new S/X asap to not be outdated

 

[CjRichMar]

Well, I just posted something almost identical in the S thread so we must be right! I only found your post because I was checking I'd spelled Electrek correctly. Great minds thing alike. Or delusional, time will tell.

Dang it, I was hoping to not repeat! Either way, glad to see I'm not the only one who suspects this.

 

[Uncle Paul]

At most of these reveals I am surprised at what happens. Elon always seems to be way ahead of what we are thinking.

 

[Tam]

I think we're going to get an announcement about a refresh of the Model S and X

I wouldn't think Tesla wants to say that don't buy your Model S/X right now until the refresh coming soon.

While AP2 started in the production line, Tesla kept it secret and did not say hey! Don't buy your AP1 right now because we're starting installing AP2 shortly before the announcement in October 2016.

 

[SoCalGuy]

I think Tesla may hold some news back just in case they need another positive news story in the next couple of months.

 

[ChrisH]

I think Tesla may hold some news back just in case they need another positive news story in the next couple of months.

Yeah I think it’s going to be Model Y only (aside from maybe some minor tid bits). There’s just been too much recently.

 

[unbelievable]

I think a refreshed model S/X is highly possible. Since it seems like the new supercharger event tonight says it is only model 3 compatible, feel like they need a new S/X asap to not be outdated

My thoughts exactly.

 

[unbelievable]

Dang it, I was hoping to not repeat! Either way, glad to see I'm not the only one who suspects this.

Hey, you got there first. I bow down to your superior prescience.

 

[muleferg]

Me want 2 C Pickup.

 

[ChrisH]

Me want 2 C Pickup.

That would be smart of them given Rivian’s push.

 

[smartypnz]

Dunno.... possibly. Elon lives for that "One more thing" S Jobs moment.

 

[McManX]

if there is an S/X update, I think it will a minor update to have new builds support V3 (which is huge in my opinion). But no body, style, interior etc changes at all.

 

[timx]

I think we're going to get an announcement about a refresh of the Model S and X along with the capacity to use V3 Superchargers at the Model Y reveal. Here's the thin evidence I'm stringing together to make this prediction:

- Last year, Electrek shared "leaked documents" about the updated interior of the Model X and S, tentatively planned for mid-2019

- Tesla recently reduced the price and options of the current models, something they've historically done when they wanted an uptick in sales before something new came along.

- Supercharger V3 is being unveiled today, seemingly only for use with the Model 3. Back when the 3 released, Elon said something along the lines of "the 3 will never be seen as an upgrade to the S or X". Introducing a new, faster charging standard that only the cheapest vehicle in the line-up can use looks to me like a major, exclusive upgrade

- Tesla did the same thing last year with the Semi reveal

- This is a little more shortsighted, but it may help distract from the negative publicity that's come with closing stores and slashing prices.

What does everyone else think?

While I certainly agree they need to do something to increase demand for S and X, the timing for that would make more sense in April (or July even). Announcing it with two more weeks to go in the quarter when deliveries are timed worldwide could result in cancellations and excess inventory to discount.

Also reading on here that there is consideration for combining S/X production lines into one to make room for Y at Fremont would suggest overall production would decrease further even if bringing back third shift. (I don’t recall how credible this was though.)

Then again, lots of things recently don’t make much sense. Closing gallery stores in high end retail locations - sure, makes sense over time as there’s less need for brand awareness and they are moving down market, but closing stores abruptly seems absurd - surely long-term lease obligations in these locations dwarf labor costs, so they’d be blowing money with no return.

 

[ratsbew]

I think it is highly likely that a S/X interior refresh + a Supercharger v3 upgrade (2170 pack) is coming, if not on the 14th, then before year's end.

 

[Boourns]

I don't think there's any reason to announce the S/X refresh next week. Elon said the v3 supercharger will be in beta for a couple months before they're built out widely. I think the announcement will likely come once that starts. The Y will be a big enough deal that they'll want to save the buzz around the new S and X for a more low key time. Of course, this is all pure speculation.

 

[aznkukuboi]

S and X are basically made to order. So I doubt dropping prices just to move inventory is something Tesla does. Other car companies actually have to do this.

However, I am expecting something big to be announced.

 

[unbelievable]

if there is an S/X update, I think it will a minor update to have new builds support V3 (which is huge in my opinion). But no body, style, interior etc changes at all.

S and X are basically made to order. So I doubt dropping prices just to move inventory is something Tesla does. Other car companies actually have to do this.

However, I am expecting something big to be announced.

I am torn between these two options. I think the first is more sensible, however I can't help thinking that the price drop is a sweetener for those who buy a model S now, only to face a much improved model being sold at usual prices at a later date.