Anyone getting close to 150 kW?

[MacGreiner]

I have supercharged at least 3 times with the new firmware (16.2) at SCs identified as 150 kW capable and the most I can get is 120. My lowest SoC was 30% and on all occasion there were 4 vehicles max at a 12 stall charger.
You can see it actually clip at 120 kW.
Is this common?

 

[P85_DA]

Which M3 u have ?

 

[ckoval7]

How long were you driving before you go to the charger? The battery needs to be pretty warm to get those speeds.

 

[SammichLover]

How long were you driving before you go to the charger? The battery needs to be pretty warm to get those speeds.

Related question, when driving did you have Nav to set the SC as the destination you were going to?

Someone local here posted a screen shot of their car at 148kW, said it bounced to 150kW at times.

 

[Tha_Reaper]

Are the 150kw Superchargers only in the USA so far? I can't seem to find any in Europe...

 

[SammichLover]

Are the 150kw Superchargers only in the USA so far? I can't seem to find any in Europe...

Have you scrolled your map over to the US to see if any there report to you as 150kW? Does the map let you do that?

 

[Zoomit]

Plenty of folks are getting just under 150kW (146-148 kW). Examples here: 150kW Supercharging for Model 3

To get these rates it’s critical your battery is warm and the stall isn’t shared (obviously) or overheated. The On-Route Battery Warmup targets 104F/40C.

If the battery can take it and the stall can provide it, the amount below 150kW you get depends on the other energy your car is using for accessories (like HVAC) and battery cooling.

(All the above assumes an LR battery.)

 

[Tha_Reaper]

Have you scrolled your map over to the US to see if any there report to you as 150kW? Does the map let you do that?

I'll try that when I have the opportunity.

 

[IdaX]

I didn’t quite get to 150kW, but 145/146kW — pretty close, and lots better than before.

 

[bryan995]

Close but 139 on the way to Vegas. Seemed to be capped at 500mi/hr?

 

[SageBrush]

lose but 139 on the way to Vegas. Seemed to be capped at 500mi/hr?

I don't know if still true but a software bug used to cap the *display* at 500. The actual rate may be higher. The rated miles ratio for the Model 3 LR is about 4 miles per kWh so if that is your model the 139 kW would actually be 139*4 = 556 miles per hour.

 

[daver6640]

I just came back from Vegas this past weekend and in Mojave, Yermo and Primm the Superchargers were rated at 150kw. I didn't get 150kw but close enough. Charging was super fast and I barely had enough time to make a pit stop at the restroom and grab something to eat.

The screen stated 1 hour and 10 minutes but it was more like 20 ish minutes. I did not charge all the way. I realize my "set limit" is high.

Charging rates in Nevada are dirt cheap compared to California. On this trip I charged in Mojave and then crossed the state line and charged at Primm.

Not the best pic but here goes:

 

[SammichLover]

Here's that local's screen shot. I'm not sure which SC this was at. They didn't mention and I didn't ask.

If you check the math on the kW to miles conversion it is using, it is displaying something that is well above 4miles/kWh.

Tesla has some New Math going on behind that charging screen. Are they trying to estimate off some sort of actual use, or there's a flat out bug, or they are estimating based on Nav going forward?

 

[Lhshockey24]

We get 145 on our model X, same on the 3. I’ve seen us getting 128 when the stall is shared too.

 

[MacGreiner]

Battery warm. I get clipped at 500 too but for me it is 120 Kw. Not sure what is going on with the different miles/Kw notifications here. Happing with my P3D-
Ill run it down a try again.

 

[tezzla]

I just came back from Vegas this past weekend and in Mojave, Yermo and Primm the Superchargers were rated at 150kw. I didn't get 150kw but close enough. Charging was super fast and I barely had enough time to make a pit stop at the restroom and grab something to eat.

The screen stated 1 hour and 10 minutes but it was more like 20 ish minutes. I did not charge all the way. I realize my "set limit" is high.

Charging rates in Nevada are dirt cheap compared to California. On this trip I charged in Mojave and then crossed the state line and charged at Primm.

Not the best pic but here goes:

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just an fyi: To get better quality pictures from the screen; turn your brightness up

 

[Zoomit]

Battery warm. I get clipped at 500 too but for me it is 120 Kw. Not sure what is going on with the different miles/Kw notifications here. Happing with my P3D-
Ill run it down a try again.

For the battery to charge near 150kW, it needs to be close to 40C. To get it to reach that temperature, the car must be driven HARD for an extended period or ORBW needs to be used for awhile before the charge session, by selecting the SC in nav. It could easily take 30 minutes or more to adequately warm the battery, depending on ambient temperature, driving speed and terrain.

The mi/hr indication is limited to 500 mi/hr for most software versions currently released. This is just an indication limit and does not reflect a power limit on Supercharging.

For a 3 LR RWD:
The conversion is ~4.26 mi/hr / kW. (more details here)
Any power above ~117 kW, the mi/hr will be pegged at 500 mi/hi.
At 150kW, it should really show ~639 mi/hr.

For a 3 LR AWD/P:
The conversion is ~4.08 mi/hr / kW
Any power above ~122 kW, the mi/hr will be pegged at 500 mi/hi.
At 150kW, it should really show ~612 mi/hr.

This 500mi/hr indication limit will be lifted when the V3 charging profiles get widely released. Currently 2019.15.11 is being used by about 1.5% of the fleet to test these faster profiles. On 19.15.11, the 500 mi/hr indication limit has been lifted. On the previous test version (19.7.11) the indication limit was 1000 mi/hr. Here's an image from a car on 19.15.11 charging at a V2 Supercharger.

Source: 622 mph : teslamotors

 

[SergeyUser]

I also noticed the 500mi/hr indication limit. I first concluded it was just a rounding error, as 500mi/hr was shown to me both at 120kW and 121kW.

 

[xlpro]

I'm hitting 149KW at Amarillo Supercharger in my P3D

 

[SageBrush]

it is displaying something that is well above 4miles/kWh.

Could this be the SR+ ?
I know we expect the cap to be ~ 120 kW but the RM is higher than 4 miles per kWh in that model.

Addendum: Zoomit's LR estimate of 4.27 miles/kWh fits the arithmetic; and in turn that fits 76 kWh usable and 325 miles range. Those last two numbers are a YMMV