Anyone thinking about an VW ID.4 Instead?
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TT97
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I would love to see the I.D. Buzz come out but I have seen too many microbus concept cars from VW to hold my breath for this one as well. Plus, I noticed the tailgate incorporates the rear bumper - I have read from many experts that is a huge design flaw/defect.
Seems this is the new norm. Model Y is such a vehicle. Also, Tesla is about to make Model Y in one casting mold. Big question is how do you repair such a vehicle when in an inevitable collision? Do you replace the whole outer shell of the Y?
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the one cast mold is not the entire "outer shell."
Tesla is installing world's biggest casting machine outside Fremont factory - Electrek
If they do cast the entire rear 1/3 of the body as a single piece as Musk claims, then we'll see a lot of "totaled" MYs when they get involved in collisions.
The cost of replacement will be too great so insurance companies will just choose to salvage them.
the one cast mold is not the entire "outer shell."
Tesla is installing world's biggest casting machine outside Fremont factory - Electrek
If they do cast the entire rear 1/3 of the body as a single piece as Musk claims, then we'll see a lot of "totaled" MYs when they get involved in collisions.
The cost of replacement will be too great so insurance companies will just choose to salvage them.
Elon will soon disclose that the Model Y will also have force fields. Dents are no longer a thing.
Watts_Up
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I hope it’s successful. It’s not for me right now. I have a S, 3, leaf, and a dodge 2500. Probably trade in the dodge fir a cybertruck.
All these other electric cars are in "theory" at this stage. As we all know concept cars do not always execute in the real world. In my opinion I would spend the extra 8-10k to upgrade to a Tesla just for their technology and track record. There sales is proving this since a higher percentage of their buyers are moving up from Hondas and Toyotas.
Lets first see it on the market, and then decide.
Or is that to simple thinking?
Or is that to simple thinking?
Fortunately we're in a forum for a company notorious for poor quality, misleading customers into purchasing "full-self-driving" under the promise it'll be available in two years since 2015, and generally being unethical to both its workers, and the consumers, who the systematically CEO blames for failing to understand Autopilot, nevermind the promise above and the hands-free video posted right on the official Tesla Autopilot webpage.
A VW seems right in line, given your description.
Young Phenom
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That's pretty much how all other ev competition to Tesla should be seen as.
There are a bunch of compelling alternatives to Tesla coming like the ID4, the Fisker Ocean, etc..
Even the current Tesla competitors have proven they either can't make as many due to battery constraints or just do not sell well.
At this point people should need to see the car on the road to even consider it.
It's the frame that's being cast. Damage in a collision would be just as expensive as the current multi part frame. If the frame can be straightened at a body shop on a frame jig, one piece is likely to be better.
Snow Drift
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Well, you'll have to wait until Spring 2021 for AWD ID.4. The 1st Edition and Pro are RWD.
Model Y is still the AWD option to buy.
Model Y is still the AWD option to buy.
thefrenches
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And what a disappointing launch that was...way overpriced for what it is
