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AP1 ONLY Please -- life after 2018.50.6
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SUN-day Driver
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I want to know if someone with AP1 has had a newer update, and if so what are the advances and pitfalls? When (if?) we get a notice that an update has downloaded, I want to know if I should load it. Normally I wouldn't worry about it, but a) I'm about to drive 2500 miles and don't want the AP that I have to become useless, and b) I can't help but feel that, at some point, the only thing we will get from updates is more bugs, since they will not be doing regression testing on AP1 cars. I want to stop loading updates right before that.
I stopped updating at 7.1. Changes that came after that were major downgrades in my opinion. I didn't want frequent AP nags, I didn't want AP that slams on the brakes at overpasses, I didn't want low contrast colorless maps, and I didn't want the new inferior UI so many people hate. I am very happy with how my 7.1 car works, and my advice is if you like how your car works now, don't apply any updates, at least not until you have read what others say about them and are confident there are no changes you will hate.
doctorwho
Active Member
I'm running 2018.50.6 4ec03ed, Spotify has been broken since before Xmas, Tesla Australia has reported this but a fix seems to be a very low priority. Unfortunately, as the media app is really the most frequently used app in the car for most people
Just got 2019.8.4 for my AP1 2014 Model S P85DL. Release notes blank, but I now have Ludicrous+ setting, dog mode, and the single page HVAC controls. I know my Ludicrous+ isn't the same Ludicrous+ in P100DL cars, but still, looks cool.
So in summary
- dog mode - check: we don’t have a dog
- unified hvac- check: winter is over
- no single tap - check
Ok, this is a bit disappointing, but at least now I can stop looking forward impatiently to the current latest update....
...Until the next one
- dog mode - check: we don’t have a dog
- unified hvac- check: winter is over
- no single tap - check
Ok, this is a bit disappointing, but at least now I can stop looking forward impatiently to the current latest update....
...Until the next one
I think the pre-AP2 cars are largely not getting much attention these days. I too am still on 2018.50.6, though I don't know if the car was trying to do an update late last week that failed. I have found when the car is parked in the garage for more than about 36 hours with the mirrors folded, the mirrors will auto-unfold when I either do something to wake up the car, or the car gets contacted by the mothership. Late last week and last weekend the mirrors unfolded several times including a few minutes after I folded them.
The mirror thing is a firmware bug I've been detailing to the local service center for over a year now.
The mirror thing is a firmware bug I've been detailing to the local service center for over a year now.
fasteddie7
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Nope. At best you can see the ultrasonics show something is there and if you initiate a lane change you hope it notices. Cars don’t show on the display until caught by the camera about 10 feet in front next to you.
Unfortunately I don’t have power measurements or time slips, but it doesn’t sound like it is preheating the battery and I wasn’t able to find a way to set up launch mode.
As far as I could tell it was the same as the prior ludicrous without max battery enabled.
dark cloud
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dark cloud
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That’s disappointing. Other cars have had this feature for around 15 years using just ultrasonic sensors.
Maybe they weren't busy building an electric car that works?
dark cloud
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After about 300 km of driving on AP1 with the new update 2019.8.4 I can confidently say there is no difference noticed compared to 2018.50.6.
edit: actually, I had a peculiar incident I would like to share and see if someone else with AP1 has noticed something similar: After downloading 2019.8.4 I am following a midsize SUV on AP with a consistent gap of 2 seconds in the right lane (number 3 position on the stalk I think). All of a sudden my car brakes, and I immediately think of the phantom braking I have read about but my car has never exhibited, and wonder if the new update has introduced this. Half a second later I then notice the car in front of me braking, hard. As I start to turn into the left lane I think: What? there is no way AP knew that the car in front was going to brake...and half way in the left lane I then notice the car in front of the SUV I was following braking. The SUV almost rear ended him.
So the radar was able to register the car in front of the car in front of me slowing?, so AP slowed my car? I know I have seen commercials from other car companies claiming this was possible with radar, but I have not noticed that before in this car. That is awesome if that is the case. But I have no way of knowing what update that might have been part of.
Does radar do this?
edit: actually, I had a peculiar incident I would like to share and see if someone else with AP1 has noticed something similar: After downloading 2019.8.4 I am following a midsize SUV on AP with a consistent gap of 2 seconds in the right lane (number 3 position on the stalk I think). All of a sudden my car brakes, and I immediately think of the phantom braking I have read about but my car has never exhibited, and wonder if the new update has introduced this. Half a second later I then notice the car in front of me braking, hard. As I start to turn into the left lane I think: What? there is no way AP knew that the car in front was going to brake...and half way in the left lane I then notice the car in front of the SUV I was following braking. The SUV almost rear ended him.
So the radar was able to register the car in front of the car in front of me slowing?, so AP slowed my car? I know I have seen commercials from other car companies claiming this was possible with radar, but I have not noticed that before in this car. That is awesome if that is the case. But I have no way of knowing what update that might have been part of.
Does radar do this?
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fasteddie7
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That's sad. I still have issues on crests of hills and sharp curves. I'd be happy with that getting fixed to perform like autopilot 2 does and not veer over the lines drastically over a crest of hill. I hoped they would get that fixed.
dark cloud
Active Member
Yeah sorry. Fetching your car on the other side of Wally World is more sexy than preventing head-on collisions at the moment. I think using the navigation to help the direction of the car when the AP1 camera is blinded is in update 2019.37.2. Patience is a virtue.
whitex
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Nope, the other cars use radar based BSM. Elon had a brain fart that parking sensors are cheaper than proper BSM (and already there, so just software really). Had he only asked some interns to verify whether parking sensors work at highway speeds, but no, he sold it first as a "it will will work after an over the air update", then a couple of years later (after I'm sure he fired anyone who told him it will never work) it turned out it doesn't work, so Tesla cleansed their website from any mention of BSM. If you ask Elon about it, he'll say Tesla cars have it, which current generation does (with help of additional cameras and a mini super computer). If you ask about the old car which were supposed to have it, you'll get no answer or "Booooring! Next question...."
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