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AP1 Price Reduction

Discussion in 'Model X' started by Pandamoanium, May 9, 2017.

  1. Pandamoanium

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    Not sure if people noticed but the price seems to have dropped. Tempting to get it now but at the same time I wonder if maybe it'll go down a bit more once AP2 gets even better.
     
  2. azred

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    I'd wait at least until Model 3 configurator opens. If the AP2 software is less pricey for the new car, obviously that decision could affect S and X AP2 software -- and perhaps AP1. But perhaps whatever it is that you are seeing today for AP1 already reflects those pricing decisions as it relates to AP1.
     
  3. nikeykid

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    Still says $3,000 AP1 for me. What price do you see?
     
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    I just logged in to MyTesla to check what the price dropped to, but AP1 is still showing $3000.

    Pandamoanium, what price are you seeing?
     
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    Same here...still showing $3000
     
  6. Pandamoanium

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    Seeing the same at $3,000.00 it was increased at one point to $3,500.00 if purchased after delivery. Not huge but still back down to the original post delivery amount.
     
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    You can still buy a new car with AP1 ?
     
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    That's what I'm trying to figure out, what's going on here?!
     
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    Software upgrade after purchase. You can't order a new AP1 car. I did it for $3k
     
  11. azred

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    Still don't understand why AP2 post-purchase price is double that of AP1. I suspect that difference will close considerably after Model 3 configurator opens.
     
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    On the day (and month+ before) HW2 was announced, AP1 was $3,000 on a new car.

    They don't let you buy "just" AP with a HW2 car, you have to buy "EAP" which does more than AP1 could. So that's the justification that EAP is $5,000 at purchase, not $3,000.

    There are some people that have "only" AP on their HW2 cars because they bought before HW2 was announced and already had $3,000 "AP" on their price sheet. They will supposedly not get the EAP functions unless they pay the $2,000 difference in the future (plus $1,000 more for adding it after delivery).
     
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    Either my reading comprehension is off today or your comments are mostly inaccurate.
     
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    Then I vote your comprehension is off today. :p

    As a person that ordered when only AP1 existed, and was delivered an AP2 car, and had to decide if EAP was worth $2,000 more than the $3,000 I had already agreed to for AP1, I feel I'm pretty in tune with how this transition went and what they are charging for.

    History:
    Aug 24, 2016, AP1 Price goes to $3,000 ($3,500 after delivery) : Tesla quietly increases price of Autopilot by 20%, says it’s to better reflect its value

    October 20th, AP2 announced: Tesla announces full autonomy hardware (AP 2.0) on all production vehicles starting now [Official Thread - Please keep all posts in here] • r/teslamotors

    October 20th, Tesla explains the extra $2,000 for EAP, and that if you don't pay it, you get AP1 features only: For those with orders awaiting or recently past confirmation

    I had $3,000 "AP" on my order sheet, and my DS specifically made me decide if I wanted AP, or EAP, and if I wanted EAP I had to pay $2,000 more. This was only an issue for the 20,000 cars that were ordered before HW2 and shipped with HW2.
     
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    Ah. So this thread only covers a pretty specific set of cars. That explains why I was reading it all as a bunch of gibberish.
     
  16. Pandamoanium

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    I had no idea this happened. Actually a nice situation to be in, in a way. I'm assuming you didn't buy EAP, if I'm right, how does your AP function?
     
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    #17 gearchruncher, May 9, 2017
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    I did buy EAP, for two reasons. Adding it after delivery is $1,000 more, and Tesla kept telling me that it would be here in December 2016, only two weeks after I picked up my car.

    Feeling like a sucker right now. Even basic AP on HW2 isn't done 5 months later, and there are no EAP features. It's going to be even worse if Tesla never does actually limit those cars to non-EAP functions. So how does my AP function? Crappy. I just posted a video where it can't drive a 25 MPH residential road for more than 500 feet without veering off. Others are having better experiences.

    So much annoyance could have been avoided if Tesla just didn't charge the $1,000 "after delivery" fee for features that are not actually available yet. Why do I have to pay Tesla $1,000 more if I don't want to buy a non-working feature just because I was an earlier adopter, while someone that waits to buy the whole car can get it at the lower price and have it working on delivery day?

    If everything starts working the way it's supposed to in a few months, then maybe I will feel like it was a nice situation, but for a lot of HW2 owners, the situation is far from nice given how far behind their release schedule Tesla is. I have a $100K car without automatic windshield wipers right now.

    For all of that, if @Pandamoanium and others are seeing $3,000 as an upgrade price, that is $500 off the previous price. AP1 was $3,000 new, $3,500 after delivery at the point it was discontinued for HW2.
     
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    Are they talking about people that bought cars with the original AP hardware, but didn't pay for the AP1 software? So that they still have the opportunity to purchase the AP1 software as a download?
     
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    That's what I thought price reduction was referring to; I'm on the same boat, have AP1 hardware but haven't ponied up for the software.
     
  20. gearchruncher

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    Yes, the OP was about people with HW1 but have not paid for AP1 software functionality. You can go into MyTesla and buy this as a download. It was $3,500 before and is $3,000 now.
     

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