AnxietyRanger
Well-Known Member
Oh stop, TSLA is perfectly capable of going up or down regardless of any random guy like me posting on a message board.
One sees quite different thinking on TMC often times...
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Oh stop, TSLA is perfectly capable of going up or down regardless of any random guy like me posting on a message board.
What I don't understand is why Tesla took money ahead of time.
You prepaid early before it's available for a lower price.
You could have paid later at a higher price.
They didn't take your money. You made your choice.
You prepaid early before it's available for a lower price.
You could have paid later at a higher price.
They didn't take your money. You made your choice.
Not quite. I ordered an AP1 car with AP1 for $2,500. They delivered me an AP2 car, with no working AP. In order to remove AP from the car, they would have charged me at least a $500 "change fee." At the time I ordered I had no idea that AP2 would exist. So they absolutely changed the car on me and then would have charged me to take the option off.
Only time will tell if they keep charging $5,000 for EAP. But it's really weird to tell someone buying a car in December that they have to pay now or pay a premium in the future for something that doesn't exist yet, while allowing someone that buys a year later when it's working to pay exactly the same amount for it to work the day they get the car. I guess as long as EAP jumps to $6,000 and FSD jumps to $4,000 the day the first EAP/FSD features show up then you're right. If the price stays the same or drops, then Tesla literally charged a premium to their early adopters and then made them wait 30X as long as was stated.
Among other things you were complaining about your FSD purchase claiming that someone at Tesla told you it would be "shortly after that." You paid less for that, instead of paying more when it came. Your choice.
In your case you paid $2500 for a feature that now sells for $5,000 (or $6,000 after delivery).
I ordered an AP1 car with AP1 for $2,500. They delivered me an AP2 car,
What I don't understand is why Tesla took money ahead of time.
I bought the car because it is amazing first electric car that really works, with supercharger stations to make long trips possible, and it drives amazingly.
That it came with any sort of self driving, was a surprise, and I was surprised to see that it the proper situations it was actually very useful. A bonus I wasn't expecting.
When the NVIDIA hardware, and multiple cameras, was presented as an option for AP, EAP later, and FSD very later... and knowing it wasn't going to work out of the box... I knew cutting edge software development is hard, but definitely wanted in. It was like being able to be part of a moon shot. So awesome.
So in grand picture of things, I have no idea how people can get so upset being part of moon shot technology that is trying to change the world.
My advice to those who are upset: Next time when there is new hardware, and the ground breaking software is not ready, simply don't buy it. Software development is always crazy. Especially when you are working on something that is as complicated as self driving.
For me: It is a life experience just being able to be part of it and watch it develop.
Worth every cent.
This turned out to be a fake video.
my car cannot drive as well as an AP1 car
No one told us we'd be going backwards 5 years in development.
My advice to those who are upset: Next time when there is new hardware, and the ground breaking software is not ready, simply don't buy it. Software development is always crazy. Especially when you are working on something that is as complicated as self driving.
How was it fake? I took as nvidia hardware running the nvidia software showing where they where headed. I never ever thought the production cars were going to have this working out of the box.
I have both. They have slight difference, but on the whole, they both drive as well as each other at this point.
When I got my car, it was very clear to me on the web site that the AP features would not be turned on. I can see how you can be upset if you missed this.
When I got my car, it was very clear to me on the web site that the AP features would not be turned on. I can see how you can be upset if you missed this.
The video was multiple short takes spliced together to make the appearance of a continuous drive. I don't know about the "silky smooth" build, but the current build I have is no where near AP1. I had driven AP1 extensively (500 miles). AP2 isn't even aware of the cars around it. It can't smoothly track a curve. The braking behavior is bizarre and dangerous.
Auto highbeam dimming doesn't work. Auto wipers don't work. AEB barely works. Blindspot barely works.
In no way is what I have a better version of an AP1 car. Had I known through proper disclosure by Tesla, I would not have purchased. I could have purchased an AP1 car and saved $50k, and had a better functioning car.
Can you explain, in the situation where someone ordered a car on October 1st, and Tesla changed the configuration after ordering, that they were supposed to "simply don't buy it?"
I watched the video several times, can you point me to the time at which the various small videos are spliced together? I couldn't see it with the naked eye.The video was multiple short takes spliced together to make the appearance of a continuous drive.
You said you bought an AP1 and they gave you an AP2.
Your story is changing. Whatever.
you will write many paragraphs to justify your upset.
Others exactly like you are enjoying their car and life without the upset. Your choice.