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In 2020 you could get a performance without the lowered suspension and 21” wheels. if you configured a performance model you then had select Performance Upgrade Pack—PUP. I should ditch the label.
MichaelP90DL
Active Member
Sure can. However, I should've been specific that they’ve designed their own chips.
Buckminster
Well-Known Member
Good luck selling yourself to Apple. I guarantee it'll cost them more in the long run in either money or R&D potential.
voyager
Active Member
It's not a question of "be patient and Apple will come up with something that will raise the bar, like it did with the smartphone".
There's a non-visionary at the helm at Apple. Apple's tour de force was in bringing something disruptive in a market that wasn't
really expecting anything - I mean: most people were just happy with their Motorola's, Nokia's and Blackberries.
The whole thing about the automotive market, is that people do expect the tech companies to bring something that will tackle
the issues that have been handicapping Personal Mobility for decades now. Thus far, they have been waiting in vain.
There's a non-visionary at the helm at Apple. Apple's tour de force was in bringing something disruptive in a market that wasn't
really expecting anything - I mean: most people were just happy with their Motorola's, Nokia's and Blackberries.
The whole thing about the automotive market, is that people do expect the tech companies to bring something that will tackle
the issues that have been handicapping Personal Mobility for decades now. Thus far, they have been waiting in vain.
Honestly, I don't know. I adore the Apple brand. I have been using iPhones and Apple Watch for many years and I am very happy with them. But the car? I do not know...
I hear what you're saying, but I dunno... This is the same Apple that's become a trillion dollar company since they've created the iphone by selling $1,000 monitor stands. They don't have to be disruptive anymore. They have their market of people locked in. If Apple builds it, they will buy it.
MichaelP90DL
Active Member
Remember the old complaint about Macintosh computers not being "compatible" with a lot of Microsoft stuff? I'm sure there will be jokes about the Apple Car not being compatible with roads.
Buckminster
Well-Known Member
My thinking:
- The car has not found it's final form factor - the CT has proven that
- Let alone the RT
- The RT market is huge - plenty of opportunity for Tesla competitors
- Apple have the second best chance of finding that new form factor - they are spending huge amounts on research and won't be thinking small
- However, Apple are indeed risk averse and unlikely to dip their toes in (Agile MVP methodology which is so powerful). They will only go for it if they have something new and major.
- Also, they would become competitors to their current CarPlay customers
- New form factors could include 3D printing entire chassis in one go (metal, plastic like PEEK/graphene or a mixture). Building batteries into the fabric of the car. More or less glass. More screens internally for passengers and externally for adverts. Glass that becomes a screen. Clever AR/VR glasses integration. Hub motors. Facing luxury seats with table. Side facing or rotating seats for easy ingress. Beds for sleeping whilst driving. Falcon wing style door covering 2+ rows or at the front / rear. Batteries in roof or front to reduce floor height (dynamics not important for RT). Graphene batteries. Supercapacitors... 3 wheels. Smaller wheels. Plastic panels. Gigapress chassis in one.
Buckminster
Well-Known Member
Buckminster
Well-Known Member
Everything is in place, just waiting for the car now.
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MichaelP90DL
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Buckminster
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MichaelP90DL
Active Member
This is partly true although Foxconn simply drives the slaves so Apple can appear clean. Throughout the '90's, Apple tried hard to make a cellphone. However, their mentality was with 'best-effort' contention resolution in computing, not 'real-time' as required for a phone. They failed miserably. It wasn't until the early 2000's, when Nokia, Ericsson, and Motorola started laying off or disrespecting their engineers who knew 'real-time' computing and how to make phones. They were hired by chip companies such as Agere, Broadcom, Freescale, Marvell, etc so that Apple could purchase the phone part as a chip and their software couldn't break it. Once the phone part was available as a chip, Apple (actually Handspring was first) put their elegant 'best-effort' application interface on another 'application processor' computer, and the smartphone emerged. Google + Samsung, of course, did the same thing with Android. Once those orthogonal approaches were married, the rest is history.
Similarly, Apple probably has no place trying to build a car. However, if someone makes a good skateboard platform to handle the car part; Apple, and perhaps others, may be able to start putting the creature comforts and applications on top to cater to the occupants.
bareyb
Active Member
I wish they would, but I don't see it. I don't think Steve Jobs would have touched that market. I don't see Tim Cook doing it either. I think they'll stick with trying to get the manufacturers to use their UI's.
israndy
Supercharger Hunter
I don't think you guys get Apple at all. They are selling an Ecosystem. Everything works together. But one thing not in their vertical integration is a way to ask your phone to take you somewhere. If and when there is an Apple Car it won't be for sale, it'll come get you when you request it from your phone/watch/glasses. They'll probably bundle it with the AppleOne service. You don't need to think about insurance, or even worry about the driver robbing or raping you cause it'll be controlled by Apple and Apple software. Just one more thing you can trust because of the Apple name.
