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Apple Magic Touchpad

Discussion in 'Model S: User Interface' started by STxTesla, Nov 27, 2012.

  1. STxTesla

    STxTesla Sig #1278

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    I wonder if the Apple Magic Touchpad (bluetooth connectivity) would work with the 17 inch screen of the Model S. If it does work, (and I realize I would have to beg Tesla to create a pointer of some sort), I would like to build a wood box frame that would hold the touchpad and fit snugly in the center cubby space. I know it sounds ridiculous with a touch screen...but a touchpad would allow you to navigate the screen without leaving ten million fingerprints on the screen. It might even be easier as you could position the touchpad within reach of the armrest. This would eliminate the need to lean forward to navigate the screen. I may fiddle with this when I get my car, hopefully this weekend, and see if I can get it to work together.
     
  2. byt

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    I'm more curious about a wireless bluetooth keyboard vs. typing on the screen.
     
  3. W.Petefish

    W.Petefish Active Member

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    Won't work.
     
  4. JerryNycom

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    Confirmed?
     
  5. jerry33

    jerry33 S85 - VIN:P05130 - 3/2/13

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    The big problem with Bluetooth is that Bluetooth isn't Bluetooth even though it's advertised as if it were. Bluetooh is a set of communication protocols (called profiles in Bluetooth speak). Any particular device generally only supports a subset:

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  6. Trnsl8r

    Trnsl8r Blue 85kwh since 12/8/12

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    Also, you would need to invent a mouse/trackpad cursor of some sort.
     
  7. byt

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    Don't see why a Bluetooth keyboard wouldn't work? Say your passenger wanted to look something up on something larger then their smart phone screen?
     
  8. W.Petefish

    W.Petefish Active Member

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    The car won't pair with the bluetooth keyboard. I tried with multiple keyboards w/o success.
     
  9. jvonbokel

    jvonbokel John VonBokel

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    Some people have reported having success with USB keyboards and mice, so I would think you could get a USB touchpad to work, or maybe even use a separate USB bluetooth receiver in conjunction with a bluetooth touchpad.

    jerry33 is right that "bluetooth" can mean a lot of different things. However, I think the majority of the implementation is in software. At least in the case of the Model S, I would guess that's the case. The bluetooth receiver in the car is probably capable of working with a variety of peripherals, but it's up to Tesla as to whether or not they want to implement each of those device profiles (which may require extensive coding). Right now I doubt if it would pair with anything other than a phone, but we know* that even that functionality will be expanded.

    *If I'm not mistaken, Tesla has promised further interactivity with phones, i.e. using the touchscreen to control music (play, pause, skip, etc.), display album art, view/send text messages, and perhaps more that I'm just not thinking of.
     
  10. jvonbokel

    jvonbokel John VonBokel

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    I took some keyboards and mice out to the car tonight. I couldn't get the Bluetooth devices to pair, but I got full functionality from a variety of other input devices, including a wireless mini-keyboard with a built-in touchpad. See this post for details (including pics/vids).
     

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