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Apple Reportedly Working With Chinese Manufacturer of Electric Vehicle Batteries

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  1. Lump

    Lump Active Member

    Mar 31, 2013
    So. Cal.
    Apple Reportedly Working With Chinese Manufacturer of Electric Vehicle Batteries

    Apple is quietly working with Chinese battery manufacturer Contemporary Amperex Technology Limited on automotive battery research and development, according to Shanghai-based news group Yicai Global, the English-language arm of Shanghai-based news group Yicai Media Group.

    The report, citing unnamed sources, claims the two companies have signed a confidentiality agreement to work together on a "scheme" related to the field of batteries, but no specific details were provided.

    CATL was founded in 2011 as a spinoff of Amperex Technology Limited, said to be the largest battery supplier for Apple's consumer electronics products, so the two companies already have an established business relationship. However, the companies have not publicly confirmed that they are working together.

    The company, based in Ningde, China, describes itself as a leader in lithium-ion battery research and development, including battery cells, materials, and recycling. CATL says it currently has more than 3,700 full-time R&D personnel from a number of well-known universities and laboratories around the world.

    CATL claims it has been the world's third largest manufacturer of hybrid and electric vehicle batteries for the past two consecutive years, behind Chinese rival BYD and Panasonic, which supplies Tesla with batteries. The company's lithium-ion batteries are used in both passenger vehicles and buses.

    The scale of Apple's involvement with CATL remains unknown, but the company has reportedly been testing self-driving vehicle software using a fleet of Lexus SUVs, which have recently been seen on streets in California.

    Last year, Apple reportedly abandoned plans for its own electric vehicle, at least temporarily, after reports persisted for nearly two years about the so-called Apple Car, said to have been codenamed Project Titan internally. In recent months, Apple has emphasized its interest in autonomous technologies.

    "We're focusing on autonomous systems," said Tim Cook, Apple CEO, in an interview with Bloomberg Television's Emily Chang last month. "It's a core technology that we view as very important."

    CATL plans to increase its battery production to 50 gigawatt hours by 2020, which could make it the world's largest lithium-ion battery manufacturer behind Tesla. The latter expects total output from its Gigafactory to reach at least 35 gigawatt hours, with the potential for up to 150 gigawatt hours, by 2020.

    The company's other goals by 2020 include significantly reducing battery costs, improving energy density, and increasing the speed of charging. Last year, it demonstrated a 4C fast-charging solution that takes only 15 minutes to charge a lithium-ion electric vehicle battery to the 90 percent level.
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  2. Barklikeadog

    Barklikeadog Active Member

    Jul 13, 2016
    Just wait until Apple finds out what the margins are, they will shut down again.
  3. sandpiper

    sandpiper Active Member

    Sep 25, 2014
    Ontario, Canada
    This seems like such a bizarre undertaking for Apple. It's like GM deciding to build cell phones.
  4. Spitzack_84

    Spitzack_84 New Member

    Aug 31, 2017
    New York, NY
    Yeah I also heard that Apple is quietly working with Chinese battery manufacturers. But you have shared major details about it. Thanks for the post. Hey, I also need help regarding EC so have been finding Electric car buyers guide. Could you provide that?
  5. malcolm

    malcolm Active Member

    Nov 12, 2006
    Of course. Project Titan was just a cover for Project Lithium Titanate.

    Yeah. Me neither.
  6. hill

    hill Active Member

    Apr 21, 2015
    Lake Forest, CA
    isn't Apple the company that builds suicide nets around their upper stories so employees can't jump off - rather than pay decent wages & afford decent hours?
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  7. McRat

    McRat Well-Known Member

    Jan 20, 2016
    The Apple car will be interesting. Only Apple™ tires will work with it, and they will be hexagonal. When it gets wet, it stops working and your warranty is void. If you turn it off, it might take several minutes to start it. If it gets too hot, you'll have to push it in the shade before it will run. All music played in the car must come from the Apple Store™, and Apple will try to get you to buy a new car each year.
    If you lose the key, you might as well scrap the car. The box it comes in will be very pretty, and will say Made in California, but in Chinese.
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  8. bxr140

    bxr140 Active Member

    Nov 18, 2014
    Bay Area
    And it will still be easily the best product on the market. :cool:
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